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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Remember to look at how this list is put together though. I'm not a huge fan of how USNWR does them. They basically survey a bunch of old dudes affiliated with CS programs (your kid could probably email a bunch of respected profs and industry professionals and get a better ranking):
"Top academics and officials at computer science programs rated the overall quality of undergraduate programs with which they were familiar on a 1-5 scale. A school’s undergraduate computer science rank is solely determined by its average of scores received from these surveys."[/quote]
how would you rate a CS program, then?

People look at various rankings, and some on here use Poets & Quants, which is a ranking based on alumni survey.  [/quote]

NP. I would consider PhD rates for one thing. True, not everyone wants to pursue, but they are highly selective and students pursuing CS PhDs tend to be among the best prepared upon finishing college. Interestingly, certain LACs do very well with CS PhD placement. Swarthmore and Carleton come to mind. I think LACs tend to be be underrated in all the discipline specific rankings because administrators tend to think of schools known for their research rather than their undergrad instruction when ranking by discipline. [/quote]

Ranking CS programs on PhD rates? That's silly.

Vast majority of CS grads don't pursue PhDs. [/quote]

It’s a data point, but if you don’t think PhD CS programs know which undergrad programs are high quality year after year (the same schools tend to dominate over decades), then perhaps consider head to head competitions. There’s an intercollegiate CS league. Last year Carleton finished ahead of seven of the Ivies. The year before Swarthmore finished ahead of all of them.[/quote]

Another interesting data point: when you cross reference the per capita PhD list and PayScale's career salary lists for computer science, 11 schools are in the top 25 of both lists:

Harvey Mudd
MIT
Stanford
CMU
Princeton
Brown
Harvard
Duke
Dartmouth
Yale
WPI

And the first 4 are in the top 10 on both lists.[/quote]

Don’t forget about cost of living differences. Student populations skew towards the region and even the state a school is located in. That can deflate data for schools in the Midwest and the South on raw salary rankings. [/quote]

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