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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Socialism sounds good, but the problem is that it doesn’t work. Do we really need another experimenting in it?

Yes. It sucks to be poor. There will be poor always. [/quote]
You (DCUM in general) keep talking about the poor and people without any degrees or skills. But those are not the only people struggling. There is a whole class of invisible people to you guys. See the professor up thread. It's not just teen mom flipping burgers vs. UMC.  Again--[b]teachers, professors, scientists, healthcare workers, low-mid range IT workers.[/b]  People **you** depend on to go about your life. Those people are struggling. And now with astronomical housing costs and inflation-having a house, sending your kids to a decent public school, health care, college-those things will be[i] only [/i]affordable to the UMC. You might not care now-but as someone from a country with a huge wealth gap--it will impact you eventually. It already is in many places in the US (rising crime, etc). [/quote]

I live in Loudoun. There are lots of these types, married to each other, living a nice life in a 3br townhouse or small SFH zoned to good schools. Its perfectly doable. [/quote]

How much do those SFH and townhouses cost these days?[/quote]

$550k
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/141-Hampshire-Sq-SW-Leesburg-VA-20175/12416313_zpid/[/quote]

No clue how a family with HHI of $150K and kids affords this.[/quote]

And the schools are not good.[/quote]

So we are back to a "living wage" demanding a Great Schools 10?[/quote]

NP. That's where I get hopelessly lost whenever anyone discusses living wage. When I see it discussed on social media, "living wage" seems to mean getting paid wages from day 1 at any job that enables you to buy an HGTV-level house or get an apartment by yourself (without roommates or a partner), raise kids if you have them, have a car, cell phone, sufficient food, streaming services, and other "necessities of life," regardless of the level of skill of the job, how long you have been there, your experience, or your education level.

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$150K is not living wage, it's the middle class, a couple of a nurse and a teacher, both working. They have to pay 50% of their take home for this townhouse house with bad schools and have less than 4k a month to pay for everything else, from food, childcare, medical, retirement savings etc.

A couple making $15/hr can't even dream of this. [/quote]

Stop saying the schools are bad. They just have a contingent of kids whose parents make $15/hr. Does that make the school bad in your eyes?[/quote]

The test scores are poor. That means that your kids are going to school with majority of peers who live in poverty and can’t meet academic state requirements.

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So your solution is we should give free income to these families and then the kids will magically become worthy to attend school with your children?[/quote]

I think we should pay their *working* parents a decent wage so they can afford to parent and be involved in their children’s lives. So these kids and their parents don’t have to worry about food or seeing the doctor and feel secure enough to focus on academics and meet academic standards. I think we should not base school assignment on property taxes and segregate the poor.

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My kids go to a school with these same GS ratings and FARMS levels. The schools are fine. We don’t need to subsidize your snobbery. The school is fine and your privilege is showing. It’s quite obvious you wouldn’t send YOUR snowflake to school with the “poors.” [/quote]

That’s right , because I was the poors once and I know exactly what the poor schools are like. Also, my “snobbery” is simply reality in Canada and just about every other developed country. [/quote]

So move back there. We have a high income and no issue with our high achieving kids attending this school. You have personal baggage here that is clouding you. [/quote]

It’s you who seems to be sensitive about your choices. The school can’t help a majority of its students meet basic educational standards. It’s objectively a poor school, has nothing to do with my baggage. Glad to hear that your kids are not affected. [/quote]

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