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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son is starting college in pre-calc that he took in 12th grade. He’s always been a terrible math student but his grades reflected that (mostly low Cs). But at least his private school was completely honest with us. His public MS gave him straight As in math including algebra 1 in 8th grade. When he took the algebra 1 placement test at his private HS, he failed miserably. There’s a lot of grade fraud going on in public education. [/quote] I don’t doubt you but how can you fake or inflate an algebra grade? I get it for other subjects. But isn’t Algebra a standard course? If you can’t solve X problems, you don’t get an A. I’m not being funny. I’m not American so maybe I’m confused. [/quote] How? When students can retake assessments, they can get higher grades. Many students use the first assessment as a feeler for the retake. Add in that students are trained to not expect just one assessment and watch out when they get to college when that’s all they get. [/quote] No good student is doing that. Retake grades top out at a 90%/A-, and that's for a 100%. The good students get As the first time around [/quote] Yes, wasn't that the pp's point? Students who aren't actually good at a subject can take retakes galore and pad their grade with other easy, nonsense assignments so that their final grade looks good, the same as the kids that actually "get it" and get As the first time around, but that's not really reflective of their actual math knowledge. [/quote] Whether or not retakes are appropriate depends on the purpose of the assessment. Is the assessment being used to identify weak spots in the student's understanding which can then be used to improve instruction? If so, the retakes are appropriate. Or, is the assessment being used as a final determination of the student's understanding after the instruction is as complete as the instructor can make it? It would be less appropriate in that case, I'd think. [/quote]
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