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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I like this guy: Vivek Ramaswamy Exceptionalism and Merit seem to be his focus, and I will gladly applaud his efforts. Chances are no one else will. [/quote] I would if merit were real, but it isn't. Merit means everyone gets the same chance and opportunity to compete, which they don't. Merit means there is no more legacy or athletics special treatment. America thrives on special treatment and calls it merit.[/quote] In America, "having merit" and being a "self-made millionaire" means having a multi-million dollar real estate empire handed to you by your daddy - right Donald Trump? In America, "having merit" means being "self made" thanks to the wealth of your daddy's emerald empire, buying companies started by visionaries and pretending to be the visionary, yourself - right, Elon Musk?[/quote] People need to try harder.[/quote] Ehhh that "American Dream" thing is an old trope that died in the 1980s. Today you can work your ass off and still never become a multimillionaire. Most of today's wealthy in America got that way because they started out rich, had the right connections, got "struck by lightning" level lucky and so on. Or you can exploit people, scam and grift your way into wealth, whether big pharma or other schemes - but actual self-made, [i]honest[/i] wealth these days in America is damn rare and the "American Dream" thing has a lot of illusory elements to it. [b] A lot of Indian immigrants to America are still figuring that out.[/b][/quote] I think Indian immigrants have figured it out way better than most others. They are the most prosperous immigrant group probably in the history of the USA. They have literally proven you wrong, unless you think their success is related to luck only? Maybe there is initially some of it for the more recent waves that came specifically as educated workers for tech/IT with jobs in high paying industry and not having to start from unskilled labor jobs like the earlier waves or immigrants or without skills/education/English. But you cannot deny there is culture at play that prioritizes education, hard work, self-reliance, and competition. [/quote] They're the most prosperous immigrant group because they're all voluntary immigrants with the financial means to emigrate and they come from a country that was colonized by English speakers. They weren't forced here because of war or famine, they chose to come here and by and large they were able to do so because they had money, education, and spoke English. very few other immigrant groups can say that and the ones that can are similarly prosperous. [/quote]
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