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The harsh reality is that if you want lower health costs and better health outcomes, it has very little to do with the healthcare system. You simply need Americans to live healthier lifestyles. Diet and exercise would go a long way. I know, much easier said than done. Eventually progressives will get single payer and, right now, sight unseen, I’d be willing to bet everything I own that it will cost much more than predicted and fail to live up to its promises, with a decent chance of making things worse in the process.  This is pretty much how it always goes.

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The actual truth is that our for profit medical system is the primary reason we have such unhealthy people, and the “unrelated” reasons are all much of a muchness. Have a weird symptom you know should probably be checked out? Can’t; you know you can’t afford the doctor’s appointment and associated tests and, even if you could swing those, you couldn’t afford the treatment.

Yes our food supply is one of the world’s worst in terms of anything growers and manufacturers want to put in is allowed - profits over all! No, employers hardly ever have to allow sick days and our sick “grindset” culture has even contagiously sick people going into the office.

Your sick little post wants to put the blame where it doesn’t belong.[/quote]

No.  You’re simply wrong. The outsized cost isn’t driven by weird symptoms and failure of preventative care. The stats really are insane. In the 1960s the obesity rate in this country was less than 5% and today it is 40%. We spend something like $1500 extra per year per American in healthcare due to obesity in this country.

True story:  do you ever wonder why menus for chain restaurants (whether sit down or fast food) now include calories on the menu?  Because “studies” suggested that the one weird trick of labeling calories on menus would lead to people making healthier choices. So, the ACA mandated that restaurant chains with more than a certain number of locations had to include calorie counts on their menus. The projected reduction in obesity due to these menu labels was supposed to lead to material healthcare savings that were included in the CBO scoring of the ACA. Have we seen any decrease in the obesity rate since 2018 when the FDA finally fully implanted the menu calorie count requirement of the ACA?

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the absurdity of all of this.  Anybody that thinks government actually has the ability to solve this problem is delusional. [/quote]

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