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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have to admire the optimism. ACA completely failed on its promises of cost savings and better outcomes. Instead of learning from that, people just want to double down and make believe that single payer will fix things.

Hint: the problem isn’t the payment system. [/quote]
The ACA has succeeded on its cost savings promises.  It didn't promise to bring down the cost.  It promised to lower the rate at which costs were increasing, which it has.

Yes it was oversold but it has fulfiilled its promise
  To be frank our entire system sucks because it is filled with middlemen taking a cut and the ACA didnt change that but rather ossified the system we already had.  There are only two ways out: single payer or the elimination of employer based insurance.  Eliminating the prohibition on medicare drug price negotiations and ending the state based regulatory system would help but isnt popular with the political donor class.[/quote]

This is revisionist BS. Obama and his champions in Congress clearly sold lower costs not just lower rate of growth. 
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Republicans didn't let him do half of what he promised.  Not his fault.  He got compromise legislation. And the proof of the deal is that Republicans never once put up something better.  As of this year they finally shut up and abandoned the repeal of Obamacare.

What he did mattered to many millions of Americans.  It is more affordable for the poor and for working people who did not benefit from company health plans, such as independent contractors and small businesses.

Whether it is cheaper for you specifically, I don't know.  But we all benefited from the elimination of the preexisting condition problem.  I know people who were stuck in their jobs because of a sick kid or spouse, who suddenly became free to pursue better options.

You want a better plan?  Get Republicans to put something down on paper that is actually an improvement.

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