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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of my friends had a kid out of wedlock. Never had to stop receiving communion and got married in the catholic church by a priest in the area with the child there. How many people in the church take communion and had an abortion or had ivf and destroyed embryos? Pp has no idea that woman's relationship with God. She went to another church so she stayed religious. [/quote]
Maybe your friend went to confession and was reconciled?  Maybe a lot of women who experienced the trauma of abortion [b]or participated in IVF [/b]did the same?  [b]All are sinners [/b]and grace through confession is available to everyone.  [/quote]

It's ridiculous doctrine like the bolded that has caused the Catholic Church to lose members (that, and the reprehensible sexual molestation of minors and the ensuing cover-up at an institutional level). Women who undergo IVF are sinners? I mean...I know the Church is against birth control and IVF but a lot of Catholics ignore both. The fact that you equated IVF to abortion says a lot. [/quote]
Actually I equated it to all of our sins.  It was PP who cited those two sins.
Catholics do ignore a lot of sins.  That doesn’t lessen the sin at all.  In fact it makes us all equal in the eyes of God.  All that must happen is sincere repentance.  
Pride is one of the seven deadly sins and there is nothing more prideful than saying one’s sins don’t matter. [/quote]

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