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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My union Healthcare is great. My parents' Medicare is great. You have poor health insurance because you have a cheap employer.[/quote] and this is exactly why health insurance should not be tied to employment.[/quote] I support comprehensive state backed health care coverage if the median American took care of themselves like the median Japanese, Singaporean, Italian, Spanish or Swiss person Way too many Americans put themselves and their families in suboptimal health thru their own actions [/quote] ? Have you ever been to Italy or Spain? They smoke and drink quite a bit.[/quote] i can speak about Italy - alcohol consumption in Italy per capita is lower than the us because hard liquor culture isn’t really there Negronis, aperol spritz, grappa etc are not very strong. Smoking is rife but food quality, walking, and chillaxing in the sun are way higher also Americans consume about 20% more alcohol per capita than Italians [/quote] Italians have to walk way more because the country is small, roads are tiny, and their income isn't very high so they cannot afford to buy cars every few years. They chillax more but their GDP and economy is in the pits. Also, chillaxing in the sun can cause skin cancer. ITA about food quality, though. Our government allows way too much hormones and pesticides in our food supply. So, it's not so much as the Italians take care of themselves better, but that their culture and government doesn't allow them to have higher incomes and work a lot. Oh, and they also have universal healthcare, and they don't ever have to worry about going bankrupt due to medical expenses. [b]So, if they get sick, they can go see a doctor either free of charge or dirt cheap. We can't do that in the US.[/b] And we never will because the US is about greed and making money.[/quote] A young friend of mine is having specialized surgery. Her out of pocket medical costs, after insurance, is in excess of $25,000. The family is doing a GoFundMe. They have raised a bit over $6,000. Only developed country where one has to rely on the kindness of people to have life altering surgery.[/quote]
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