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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Depends - if they have an iep? I’d tell them that most of the services are delivered by the general Ed teacher because inclusion spec Ed teachers are stretched too thin and we spend so much time on paperwork and not with kids. I’d also tell them no matter what they “advocate for” in the iep, it doesn’t actually happen during the school day due to limited resources and time so half the time we just agree to make you go away [/quote]

We know. Thanks for being a failure in your life's work.[/quote]

Likewise for being a failure at actual life. (Lack of empathy is the first sign of being a psychopath)[/quote]

"I decided to use an anonymous forum to taunt distraught parents of special needs kids in a blasé manner about how we fail their children. But you're the psychopath! Poor me!"
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The thread is what we would tell parents if we could. I appreciated that teachers transparency and didn't read it as a taunt. You're clearly dissatisfied with your child's service, but you're lashing out to someone who is telling you there is literally nothing they can do to solve your problem. [/quote]

I’m the one who posted about spec Ed. Not a taunt just the hard truth. And I’m not a failure at my job, I’m actually a really good spec Ed teacher and I advocate hard for the kids on my caseload. But these are the truths of the conditions in mcps and that’s what the thread asked about. Sometimes I wish parents knew so they didn’t believe the BS . That being said, parents should not be angry at the teachers - it’s the system and lack of appropriate resources [/quote]

If you really wanted parents to know, why not tell them instead of lying to them to get them to “go away”? I don’t get it. That’s something that is absolutely in your power to do, and doesn’t even take a lot of effort.[/quote]

And get fired ? Or written up by my boss/ supervisor for telling you that? No way [/quote]

People outside teaching have no idea what pressures teachers face. No idea at all. I wish it were as simple as the PPs suggest re: just talking to parents. [/quote]

In that case, let’s at least agree that the public school staff knowingly lying to parents of children with special needs don’t own the moral high ground.

I still don't understand the support in this thread for teachers actively participating in covering-up malfeasance, but I guess some people think that's ok for... reasons.[/quote]

DCUM asks for the truth from real teachers and just cannot handle it. [/quote]

I guess that’s it. I expected that they would at least try to act in good faith, and be remorseful when they don’t. Apparently that wasn’t a realistic expectation. As you suggested, it’s a bit shocking.[/quote]

I’m the OP who shocked everyone with comments about spec Ed. I never said there is lack of good faith or lack of attempt to implement. There is. But at the end of the day, there are many unreasonable requests from parents , advocates and lawyers and they just cannot be provided the way the iep is written. But I can’t say that and there is no way my admin will say it. Some admin will say it depending on the parent but if they have representation (lawyer or advocate) we agree to it all usually. It’s just not worth fighting. But this forum asked what I want you to know. I want you to know that if you have a case manager with 20 kids on a caseload , serving 3 grade levels or more, and large class sizes …. It might not be happening! [/quote]
I'm a np. Can you give us some examples of unreasonable requests by parents? It seems like parents of sped students rightfully are so focused on fighting for their kids (understandable) that they aren't looking at the bigger picture. [/quote]

Different poster, and I'm an SLP and case manager. The most frequent difficult request I get is to increase service time or see them individually. Or to not pull them out of specific classes.

I have one student that has 4x the service time that most come in with and the parents don't want them seen in a group and don't want them missing class. It's just not possible. There aren't enough hours in the day. Or the parents who want me to address things that don't affect academics, and their kid who doesn't even want to address it. It's just not how the system is set up.

We operate differently than private practice SLPs. We are just as qualified, but the job itself has its restraints. [/quote]

As a parent of 3 who did speech, I understand where you’re coming from. However, the speech services provided are pretty useless. If you have a group of 3 students for 30 minutes, each student is getting 10 minutes of intervention a week assuming you don’t lose time gathering students and they are all ready to get down to business at the first minute of the allotted session. My son had apraxia. MCPS refused to provide appropriate services. Treatment for apraxia differs from articulation or phonological disorder. It can’t be done in a group. I loved our MCPS speech therapists. This isn’t the SLP’s fault at all but MCPS. However as a parent, the SLP is the point person so I contacted her when I wanted a change in service. What should a parent do instead? And fwiw, we supplemented with private for all 3 kids. MCPS needs to get on the ball with children with disabilities. Aside from autism, they do a terrible job. We did a lot of private testing, private therapy and hired advocates. It was expensive. What about parents who don’t understand how to navigate the system and don’t have money for outside services and advocates. These kids get the shaft. Not your fault or any teachers fault. It’s a systemic failure but it makes me so mad. [/quote]

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