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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What’s the gist of this article/video for those who can’t see it?[/quote] Has little to do with most the comments here about donut hole aid. It's referencing the recent NY Times article which is a summary of this research paper: [url]https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/CollegeAdmissions_Nontech.pdf[/url] Controlling for other factors, students already in the 1% are significantly more likely to be admitted to elite schools. Students in the 1% are slightly more likely to apply, that explains 20% of the disparity. Students in the 1% are more likely to attend if accepted that explains 12%. But students in the 1% are simply more likely to be admitted. This in turn breaks down into three categories. They are more likely to be legacies, 46% (they also get a bigger legacy bump 5 fold for a legacy with income of $660k vs. 3 fold for a legacy with income $83k-$116k). They are more likely to be recruited athletes, 24%. But the remaining 30% is simply that their files receive higher non-academic ratings: [quote]The remaining 30% of the admissions advantage for students from families in the top 1% is explained by the fact that they are judged to have stronger non-academic credentials (e.g., extracurricular activities, leadership traits, etc.) than students from lower-income families. The relationship between parental income and non-academic credentials is mediated by high schools. Comparing non-legacy applicants with the same test scores, demographics, and parental income, Ivy-Plus applicants who attend non-religious private high schools are twice as likely to be admitted as those who attend public high schools in affluent neighborhoods. Conditional on SAT/ACT scores, the academic ratings of students from private high schools with high admissions rates are no higher than those from public high schools, but their non-academic ratings are much higher. Since children from the top 1% are much more likely to attend private high schools, these differences in non-academic credentialing across high schools contribute to the income gap in admissions rates to Ivy-Plus colleges.[/quote] [/quote] Dcum donut hole. Live in million dollar house, two cars under ten years old and 1-2 big vacations with a few weekend ones and lots oth other expensive things. Then scream poverty. [/quote] No, those people usually send their kids to private and pay for college, too. DCUM donutholes don’t have those things, they’re satisfied with UMD CS, but they like to blow off some steam all the same. Regardless, that’s not what the post was about.[/quote]
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