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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Last week Jon posted a pic of all the sextuplets as little kids and captioned it, “happy birthday to ALL my kids”…ouch![/quote]

It's interesting because Mady, Cara, and the two girl sextuplets that stayed with Kate did a live not too long ago and said that the public shouldn't believe what they heard about the cause of the rift. This was shortly after Collin did that interview. They didn't elaborate but did say that no, the "Kate kids" do not interact with the "Jon kids" and vice versa. Jon doesn't see any of the kids who live with Kate. Kate doesn't see the kids that live with Jon either.

Terribly sad. All Mady would say is that there are things the public will never know for the reasons for what went down.

So, basically, this is either a textbook example of parental poisoning and what happens when a select group stops believing the poisoning lies, [b]OR something majorly nefarious went down that caused Kate to expel Collin and then later Hannah. [/b][/quote]
It was clearly Kate who expelled Collin but from what I've read it was Hannah's decision to move in with Jon. Kate didn't "expel" Hannah, it actually seemed to be more of Hannah expelling Kate, although Hannah has indicated that she and Kate are not totally estranged. Also, Kate showed up at H & C's high school graduation in PA, but only interacted with Hannah.

Collin was only 12 when Kate sent him away- what the heck could be so nefarious that a 12 year old could do for his mother to 'expel' him? In a loving family, I can't think of anything. I have a 12 year old, and even if they did something truly truly horrible, I would still maintain contact! Maybe at a distance, but cutting my own flesh and blood off entirely, especially at age TWELVE, just doesn't compute. I'm thinking of something like murder...but if Collin truly did do something that horrible, you'd think that would have gotten out to the media, no?

Long way of saying...I don't think anything majorly nefarious went down, I think Kate is just a narcissist and Collin wasn't afraid to call her out on her BS and that is just not ok in Kate's world. So he had to be gone. Just like Aunt Jodi and her husband, just like Beth Carson, just like her parents...[/quote]

Josh Duggar is one example of why a 12 yr old should be sent away from siblings and get serious behavior therapy. You are very naive to think a 12 yr old can't do horrendous things to their siblings and other family members, pets, etc. Kate visited him at the institution, we really don't know what happened.

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I don’t believe Kate had visited him for sometime when join eventually found him and got him out of the home. She left him there and would not tell the other custodial parent where she moved him to…this was so wrong.[/quote]

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