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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How is paid surrogacy any different than buying kidneys or blood?[/quote] It isn’t. We don’t allow people to sell organs or engage in prostitution but we allow them to rent out their wombs? It really doesn’t make sense.[/quote] +1, I think the main reason surrogacy is viewed more favorably in the US as opposed to other countries is the way [b]the evangelical movement in the US has convo fed Americans that there is nothing more important than procreating[/b]. Also explains hypocrisy in the US regarding abortion and IVF. [/quote] I mostly agree. I think it's interesting that so many surrogates are evangelical or otherwise highly Christian and religious. People here are talking about exploitation, which is always a possibility, but what I've seen from US surrogates is that they tend to be married, financially stable people who view surrogacy as a higher (religious?) calling. Many of them have a LOT of kids and are not concerned about pregnancy complications; they popped out 5 of their own on the kitchen floor, what could go wrong? They're not doing it for the bucks and they don't feel the least bit exploited. They feel like they're helping God create families. As an atheist, I don't get it, but yeah I feel more favorably towards those women and surrogacy in the US than I do poor women in Indian baby farms doing it so they can put food on the table. [/quote] That’s true for the 2 women I know who have been surrogates. One was done for a friend (still compensated) and the other through an agency. Both women were SAHM and didn’t need the money, but saw it as a calling from God. [/quote] This is absoute BS - they do it for the money. [/quote] The one woman I know who was a surrogate wasn't super rich (probably about a 400k HHI) but was a SAHM who had easy pregnancies and did see it as a calling. Like, maybe the money topped off college savings, but it was not the primary motivator or needed to keep a roof over her head and as a college educated person who worked before kids it would have been very easy to get a regular job for 80k (and much of this 80k is for medical care, so more like 30k take home). She preferred to do something "easy" that she thought God would want and that let her stay home with her own kids. Surrogates in the US, at least the ones who go through agencies, are not the poor, exploited underclass; they're middle class. They're not working 3 jobs cleaning toilets all day, living with the threat of water or heat being cut off, occasionally going hungry and in vulnerable life circumstances. They're just not. [/quote] The American "middle class" is struggling to afford food, buy a home, pay for health insurance and their kids college funds and you don't think middle class women NEED the money they get from renting out their wombs? What rich bubble are you posting from? [/quote] Who exactly is allowed to choose to be a surrogate in your mind? Only rich women ? You keep moving the goal posts here. [/quote] I'm against surrogacy. No one should be allowed to use women as breeders. [/quote]
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