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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The doctor is the one who suggested and gave ketamine to Maya, not Beata. They saw her dramatically improve with freedom of pain. So Beata wanted to continue with the treatment that seemed to have helped her daughter. I dont see how that’s abuse from Beata.[/quote] Bc you can find a doctor anywhere to say anything. Let’s say you go to a doctor who tells you your chemo needing child can instead eat a raw food diet and get sunlight daily. Can you shrug and say it’s on the doctor bc I trusted what he said?[/quote] It's not that clear, as there aren't that many doctors who specialize in CRPS. In addition, the approach to CRPS has shifted since the events in the documentary to an approach that focuses on therapy and physical therapy and not medications. [b]The documentary does not offer a clear timeline, but it does reflect that the family tried other things, including lower doses of ketamine, before going to Mexico for treatment. [/b][/quote] The timeline seemed pretty clear to me?? Maya started presenting with pain in July 2015 and they flew to Mexico for the ketamine coma in November 2015. IDK, that seems like a pretty short amount of time to decide to fly your kid to Mexico for a treatment that isn't legal in the US... [/quote] Yeah. Per court docs symptoms start in July 2015, Ketamine coma 2.5 months later, ketamine protocol from then until October 16th when she was admitted, released to her father in January 2017, completed PT and was walking around and resuming all normal activities by August 2017.[/quote] There are a number of press accounts of patients of Dr. Kirkpatrick with CRPS/RSD who received or considered ketamine coma treatment in Mexico, including the one below, which has this information: [quote]Kirkpatrick then explained that there are currently three kinds of ketamine treatments for RSD: the awake technique (continuous low dosage for 4-5 days), outpatient high-dose infusion (4 hours a day for 3 days), and the coma technique (continuous high dosage for 5 days). Upon his testing and because Jessica's RSD is full body and so severe, Kirkpatrick is recommending the only treatment available that can possibly put her in remission and afford her some semblance of a "normal" life the Ketamine Coma Procedure ? a clinical trial that is being conducted in Monterrey, Mexico. During this procedure Jessica will be put into a coma for five days, with the hope that her brain will "reset" itself so that her nervous system sends the correct signals to her brain.[/quote] [url]https://archive.naplesnews.com/community/jessicas-journey-young-naples-woman-heads-to-mexico-in-quest-to-get-her-life-back-ep-396917211-331303671.html/[/url] Here is another article discussing the use of a ketamine coma for the "worst" CRPS patients: [url]http://www.nopainhanna.com/2015/07/17/relief-for-worst-rsd-may-lie-with-ketamine-coma/[/url] It notes that Dr. Kirkpatrick was conducting a study of ketamine comas to treat CRPS, an option he said he recommended for fewer than 5% of his patients. [quote]South of the Border Dr. Kirkpatrick has embarked on a study in Mexico with a protocol similar to that used in the German study; he sends his patients to the San José Technological Hospital, affiliated with the Tec de Monterrey School of Medicine in Monterrey, Mexico, a few hours’ drive from the Texas border. Patients pay about $20,000 for the treatment, which is not covered by insurance. Leading the Mexican medical team is Fernando Cantœ Flores, MD, an anesthesiologist and specialist in pain management who was trained at the University of Texas. The study was originally approved in the United States by the institutional review boards of the University of South Florida and Tampa General Hospital, but the FDA refused to grant an exemption to its international new drug application. Rather than embark on a process that would likely cost $3 million and delay treatment for their patients, Dr. Kirkpatrick and his colleagues moved the study to Mexico. A review board in Monterrey also approved the study. So far, eight patients have been treated in Mexico. The main difference from the German study is that pain thresholds are measured with a force gauge. The German study relied on self-reporting.[/quote] Both Dr. Kirkpatrick and another provider, Dr. Robert Schwartzman, were considered cutting-edge experts on CRPS when Maya was first being treated and were deeply invested in an approach to treatment that would alleviate pain to regain function, as opposed to those recommending physical therapy and other related treatments without any measures to control a patient's pain at a first step. There may well have been some psychological issues at play, but with context, it's not hard to understand why Beata would have believed that ketamine was the key to managing Maya's pain.[/quote]
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