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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.[/b]

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It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.[/quote]

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

[b]The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.[/b] [/quote]

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s.  American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.[/quote]

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people.  I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.[/quote]

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on [b]every single thread[/b] might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating? [/quote]

Lol.  Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in [b]every single thread[/b] here in the religion forum!  If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?[/quote]

No, “the decline and fall of Christianity” has been posted on lots of threads, including “I feel cut off from God” for sure and others I don’t have time to ferret out.

Who’s dishonest?

I don’t care, really. Just expressing astonishment that some atheist feels a need to keep posting it, or thinks it does any good. [/quote]

They ignore the data that shows Christianity is growing worldwide. They ignore the data that says atheism is projected to decrease worldwide, as well.

[b]Christianity is exploding in Africa and Asia. [/b]

Atheists are white males who don’t like kids, so of course it’s not a segment of society that will ever have a robust population.

Also- atheists get light headed and upset when they sneeze and someone politely says “bless you.” Not the most hardy people, it’s no surprise they are not growing and thriving in the world. [/quote]

That has to be due to missionaries. I mean, it's not endemic to that area.
I will say that in some places like the Philippines, if you're born - you're a Catholic. So as the population grows the number of Catholics grows. [/quote]

Christianity and Islam are proselytizing religions. It makes sense they'd be the fastest growing. The busy-bodies should mind their own business. And maybe it's growing rapidly in Asia and Africa because Western Europe and the U.S. are seeing less and less need for it. [/quote]

In America nobody is forced to be Christian. You live in america and aren’t Christian- why haven’t you been proselytized?

Because religion is a choice. Nobody can force you or anyone else to be religious against their will.

You must be in the top percentage of miserable people, you really have no life except complaining falsely about Christianity.[/quote]

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