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I think some men just don't realize, and were never taught, that a woman's climax from cl***ral stimulation can actually be much more intense than a PIV climax at times, for some women. Sorry for the coy *** stuff but don't know what will get flagged as explicit here. [/quote]

I know what you mean, but for what it's worth, they're all from cl***ral stimulation. The cl*toris is a big organ with the tip of the iceberg popping outside. The rest of it is buried inside and under and can be stimulated in various ways. The vagina itself is not a very sensitive organ except that it's right up against the buried parts of the cl*toris. [/quote]

That was kind of my point. I get that. But despite the fact that the vaginia itself isn't very sensitive, many men and women are led to think (by what they're told, what they see in films and TV, etc. etc.) that PIV alone should create fantastic Os for women. That's often not the case yet both partners then don't explore other avenues to climax for the woman, or act as if a cl*t orgasm is somehow only foreplay, or not an end goal because they think PIV is endgame.

And in discussions of sex here, you realize people talk about PIV and cl*t stimulation as separate in terms of acts performed on and in them. Of course acts on one "part" affect everything else. But I was addressing this the way others do on here. [/quote]

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