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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m not shaming anyone for taking these drugs! I’m just worried that we don’t know enough about the side effects long term. [/quote]

They have been on the market for many years for diabetics. They’re pretty well understood at this point. [/quote]

That’s the problem - for diabetes or serious obesity, yeah, the risk of long term side effects may be comparatively less important. The worry is when people start taking them to get down to a BMI of 19. And also the rebound for people who cannot tolerate them. [/quote]

Okay. What long term side effects in the population are you referring to that are comparatively less important? Specifically [/quote]

It’s a risk-benefit calculation obviously. [/quote]

Yes. My question is which risks SPECIFICALLY are you worried about drawing from the data of populations that have already been on the drug many years. [/quote]

Fen-phen was also on the market for years. Like all new medications, we won’t know until we know. The rebound effect seems pretty clearly established though. [/quote]

The first Fen-Phen study was published in 1992. It never received FDA approval for obesity. It was banned by 1997. [/quote]

A minute of googling yeilds a fen-phen paper from 1984: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/604539

Obviously they are completely different drugs, but there is ample reason to be concerned. [/quote]

There is whatever reasons to be concerned that you can identify in the copious high quality data we have. What are your specific reasons?[/quote]

My specific reasons are that Ozempic already has a long list of known side effects and we have *no idea* what will happen with long term use in non-diabetics. You’d frankly have to be an idiot to pretend it’s all sunshine and roses. [/quote]

But high BP. High cholesterol, diabetes and all of the other problems that come with being obese are? We know there are risks involved. You’d have to be an idiot to assume that we are so dumb as to not know that there are risks with everything you put in your body. Including food!!!![/quote]

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