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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow these teachers work so much.  WHY?  Why is it necessary to work so many hours?  Something is wrong with this model.  Unfortunately women like to make things more complicated than they need to be and come up with made up work.  My guess is it’s a result of being a female-dominated industry.  [/quote]

Scenario:
I collect 150 5-page papers. I am required to leave comments. It takes me 10 minutes per paper, so that’s 25 hours of grading for that assignment alone. I am required to grade two *meaningful* assignments a week.

I get 24 minutes a day that are unstructured and away from other people. That’s 24 minutes a day to grade those papers, grade other assignments, prep my lessons, respond to all emails, etc.

I am sincerely curious: how can I make this job easier? How can I cut hours?

I’m not being snarky. I genuinely would like to know so I don’t quit.

- written on my one 24-minute break today. That’s also my time for lunch and unwinding, which I am doing now before I spend the rest of the time planning.[/quote]

It’s not you.  It’s whoever is requiring you to grade 2 meaningful assignments and not have time within the school day to do so.  If men were teachers they would not be taking these assignments home to grade.  Men love to take advantage of unpaid or lowly female labor.

To be fair though, I thought the school day ended around 2 or 3 PM.  I don’t see why 2 more hours a day is sufficient for what needs to get done. [/quote]

Well, for starters, teachers are not grading during the school day. They are teaching during the school day. For an elementary school teacher, 2 hours at the end of the day MIGHT be sufficient for what they need to do, if they are not participating in other things like supervising extracurricular activities or meeting with parents, both of which are pretty common after hours things for elementary school teachers to do.

For a teacher at my kid's high school, they start work at 9 and school gets out at 4. Depending on the teacher, they have 3-7 classes per day. If my kid's history teacher (5 classes per day this year, last year it was 7) collects one 5-page assignment from all 25ish kids in each class, that is 125 assignments. Each needs to be read and commented on substantively, which as the PP above says takes time. If the PP really just skims and gives generic feedback, call it 5 minutes per assignment instead of 10. That's still over 10 hours of grading for one assignment. If you are giving teachers in this situation 2 hours after school gets out (from 4-6pm), they will need to use that "grading period" all week for this one assignment. That history class has a 5 page paper and 2 shorter assignments this week.

I agree that there is a lot of gendered imbalances in education, but the history teacher I'm describing is male. My dad taught university-level literature classes and he also experienced the long hours of grading outside the hours of teaching.

Some professions just have really different structures that are not responsive to things [b]like "just add 2 hours at the end of the day, easy[/b]!"[/quote]

Sounds like things need to change.  Perhaps AI will help.  [/quote]

I wasn't an AI fan until I read some of these responses. Clearly these lazy people don't need these jobs. [/quote]

Very true.[b] If I were paid what I make for 10hrs a week with my employer under the assumption that I was to be working 40,[/b] I’d have no self esteem or self worth left. At least I have skills and can keep them sharp via by job.

I hate to say it but I’m glad my company has actual software that measures metrics. Not much dead weight around here with all the visibility they have into our work flow. [/quote]

Are you able to imagine a scenario where you’re asked to perform a very difficult task with a bunch of new concepts and reaching out to people you’ve never met?

Now imagine someone who has performed this same task for 10 years and knows all of the people to contact for assistance.

Person A might perform the task in 25 hours.  Person B needs 5 hours.

Is it really a bad thing that person B takes 5 hours?

You seem to really view work as being paid for a number of hours but many employees especially subject matter experts are being compensated for knowledge and contacts. [/quote]

This. People who do work in 5 hrs and get more work added get resentful fast of the people who do just the first task in the same amount. There are certainly self motivated people out there and the companies that retain them pay a premium. [/quote]

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