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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If they go to those schools and major in useless stuff, then good luck.
Of course it's better than majoring in useless stuff at a mediocre school, however it has more to do with major.
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Who has the luxury of useless degrees?
I was first gen and went into engineering and did fine, even though a different science might have been my first pick if money was no object. I knew I had to have a career track right out of undergrad.

What you may not know about being poor is that you don't pick up merchandise unless you already know the price of it. I knew the other degrees were not in my budget.
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Lots of lesser prepared kids get weeded out of “useful” majors like engineering, biology, computer science, physics & statistics. Even nursing (although Princeton doesn’t offer that). [/quote]

Simple reason:  Because those URM kids who were admitted only because of AA/DEI can’t handle STEM.  In liberal arts they can fudge.  They may even be given a free pass if they can’t write grammatically correct sentences.  (Not suggesting that ANY liberal arts professors should EVER do that!)  But in STEM there is no way to fudge.[/quote]
+1 a DEI type student in my DC's math class got into an ivy.  DC says this kid struggles a lot in the math class, and that they are going to flame out in the math classes there.[/quote]

So what? That kid will graduate with an Ivy degree, and yours won't. [/quote]
If they flame out, no, they won't graduate with an Ivy degree.  But, to OP's point, part of the reason why you see some kids struggling is because of the "holistic" admissions factor.

Also, recruiters do look at college GPA for recent grads.[/quote]

96% of Pell grant recipients graduated from Princeton, compared to 97% of non-Pell grant recipients.

The low-income kids at Princeton graduate at a nearly identical rate. [b]And a 3.5 vs 3.7 GPA is almost indistinguishable to most employers[/b]. [/quote]
that's probably true, but the lack of internships will hurt, as shown by OP's post where they have a higher rate of not being employed after graduation.

However, I do think that lower income students are scrappier than umc students, so they will be fine.

I think it's those who were admitted for "holistic" reasons other than income will struggle more.[/quote]

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