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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.[/quote] +1[/quote] Which ones? Most of the subject ratings are graduate program ratings, not undergraduate. Duke has top 10 outcomes for undergraduates.[/quote] +1 their mainstay is their undergrad program which is why it's a great place for college. They're also surrounded by many top 10 graduate programs which doesn't hurt either.[/quote] Graduate school rankings are generally the best measure of academics for a department. If a school does not rank well in a subject for graduate school, well that reflects on the quality of faculty and graduate students teaching undergraduate courses. The graduate school rankings are directly linked to the undergraduate programs.[/quote] It's great to have professors doing research (which is essentially what grad school rankings are all about) but for undergrads a much more relevant measure would be quality of undergrad teaching. You could have brilliant researcher not put much effort into teaching undergrads, which doesn't strengthen the undergrads at all.[/quote] That's why a school like Dartmouth is so strong for undergrad even though none of its graduate programs are really esteemed. They still educate the best of the best[/quote] The MBA program was just ranked 6th in the recent US News listing. And is top 10 on most lists. There are really only 2 other grad programs - Engineering and Medicine. All 3 are small. [/quote] Duke’s MBA is ranked #11 on USNWR. The graduate programs at Duke in business and medicine do not have departments that offer undergraduate degrees so are not relevant to undergraduate academics.[/quote]
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