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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]a 16 year old biological boy is going to cream biological girls.  Gender is a huge advantage in swimming.  Note the 15-18 all star free style swim times- 18 kids swim.   the boy who came in 18th would have taken first place swimming as a girl
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I don't disagree with you at all.  But there should be a policy out there, written. There are definite biological advantages, the same way all stars tends to be dominated by the 19 years olds that swim in 15-18.  But there is a rule there.[/quote]

This is not true.

If you look at the all star times yes, there are 18 year olds who may really be 19, but there are also 15 and 16 yr olds at the top. After puberty age matters less.  Do you really think that a kid who is 18 and 11months vs a 19 makes a difference?

All of the male NVSL records were set by a 16 yr old. So there goes your theory that only the 19 year old dominate. [/quote]

Different for men than women.  [b]The older boys/men definitely dominate.[/b]  Not so for girls who develop younger[/quote]

Guess you don't like facts. Everything I stated above was true.

All of the NVSL MEN's records were set by a MAN who was 16 at the time and it you look at all stars last summer there are 15 and 16 yr olds who placed in the tip Sure 18 yrs olds got first, but I am guessing not every one of them is really 19. [/quote]

You have a really bad sample set here - kids drop out like flies once they get older and legitimately fast 18 year olds are not focused on a silly summer league. They are swimming for sectionals and futures time and don’t want to waste time beating 16 year olds in a pool. This is written by someone who doesn’t know anything about real competitive swimming. There’s a reason why there are age groups and why we don’t see 16 year men swimming in the Olympics (yes Phelps was the exception). [/quote]

:roll: sure that is why there have been NVSL records set by individuals who when on to swim in the Olympics. Lots of local swimmers swim in NVSL for fun. The 16 yr old record holder was one of the top college recruits and went to Olympic trials.

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Right, so this record holder continued to swim in nvsl and didn’t lower the record as an 18 yo? Or no, they left after 16? That’s the point, if he had stayed until 18, times would have been even lower. [/quote]

NP - kept swimming in NVSL - but there were injuries. Google it.  I don’t like posting about individuals on this site, but there is already info online about it. [/quote]

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