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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Is the increase mostly in mild forms? [/b]Because that's where most diagnostic progress has been made. If we see an increase in severe forms, then that's cause to worry about environmental causes.[/quote]

Even if it is, shouldn’t we still question why so many kids are diagnosed and whether any of it can be prevented?[/quote]

Autoimmune disorders are on the rise, allergies are on the rise, asthma is on the rise.

I wonder if we are going to get to 1 in 5 kids with autism and people will still say it's all better detection, broadening definition and mild forms. When will it be enough for people to care about environmental triggers?[/quote]

None of these are comparable and all have medical evidence and often genetic.[/quote]

I think they are comparable.  There are doctors who believe these are all related to autoimmune disorders.  Kids with ADHD and autism are much more likely to get PANS/PANDAS.  There’s a high correlation between Celiac and ADHD, etc.[/quote]

It seems related to me. Kids with ASD have GI issues, disproportionately. There’s the interesting fever effect, in which some kids become more “typical” behaviorally, when they have a fever. There is also a pallor that I see in kids with ADHD and ASD—nobody has been able to explain to me what it is, but it’s noticeable.[/quote]

Oh ffs. Yes, the pallor. That’s because they are actually vampires. [/quote]

Look, there was a big story recently about a woman who noticed that patients with Parkinson's had a distinctive odor (her husband had Parkinsons and she smelled it in waiting rooms with other patients. She had to push and push, and finally someone studied it and it is true and potentially useful to early diagnosis:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/23/820274501/her-incredible-sense-of-smell-is-helping-scientists-find-new-ways-to-diagnose-di

I have spent a lot of time around kids with ASD and notice that they often "look" less healthy looking than their siblings who don't have ASD. I have seen it on a lot of kids, including my own. Yet IME, once ASD is diagnosed, nobody is interested in any physical issues. Low vitamin levels, constipation, eczema -- it's all treated individually as having nothing to do with the ASD. Yet there are clearly things going on in the kid's body that are atypical. I hope someday we'll know.

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I can’t even express how stupid that is. Yeah sure let’s dx kids with autism because they are pale because of some crap research that claims you can smell Parkinsons.

I just can’t even. I cannot. [/quote]

The poster is saying that the common physical characteristics should be studied, nit a diagnosis. Calm down[/quote]

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