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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would assume that the OP was trolling to trying to dredge up antisemitic tropes. I'm surprised to find this thread allowed on DCUM.[/quote]

I believe Jeff generally means well, and I've addressed my concerns to him when reporting at least one thread getting really antiJewish in the past. But my conclusion over the last couple of years has been that a) he doesn't really understand the way hints and whispers demonizing Jews have historically paved the way for violence and/or b) doesn't believe antiJewish violence is a real risk to Jews today.

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I'm guessing Jeff doesn't really know how to thread the needle between quashing antisemitism and disallowing discussion of huge parts of Christianity, like the crucifixion),[b] which has antisemitism so baked into it. [/b]So he only deletes overtly antisemitic posts, while leaving the baked in stuff alone to fester here and do the damage it's always done.[/quote]

so you think the crucifixion story is inherently anti-semitic? Hmmm....  If so, there's just no way around that I guess.  It really is part and parcel of Christianity[/quote]
If we can't have a conversation about the crucifixion without blaming the Jews in part or in whole for it (as it seems we can't based on this thread), then, yes, the story is antisemitic. I don't think that means that Christianity has to be wholesale antisemitic today, but it's something Christians would need to devote time and energy to counteracting in their religion. I think you can even still talk about the crucifixion; just try focusing on the salvation aspect of [i]why[/i] Jesus died, rather than looking to place blame for his death. Christians pick and choose parts of the Bible to ignore/downplay, so why not this part too?

As for how the narrative of the crucifixion still harms Jews today, I'll share an anecdote. I worked at the reception desk of a Jewish Community Center and one day a man came in wanting to visit our library. He started asking me questions about what the best books might be to learn about Judaism and Jewish history. He went on to say that he was specifically interested in books about why the Jews killed Jesus and got agitated when I tried to correct him on that point. "Yes, they did," he insisted heatedly, "it says so in the Bible." Thankfully, one of our maintenance staff happened to be passing by and saw this man's body language and overheard him say "Jesus," so he came to check on me and then escorted the man out. It was, apparently, a frequent enough occurrence (not this specific man, but Jews killed Jesus people in general stopping by to harass staff) that the maintenance team knew to have their ears open for mention of Jesus and a protocol for how to deal with it.[/quote]

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