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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So nice to see all these posts matter-of-factly blaming Jews for the death of Jesus! Not even the Catholic Church officially teaches that anymore, but go on!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-jews/pope-book-says-jews-not-guilty-of-christs-death-idUSTRE7214U420110302

And for the posters who think "the story" isn't antisemitic but it's been used by antisemites to justify antisemitism, sure, I guess, except I wonder if you think it might also be possible that the antisemites got their ideas about perfidious Jews from the fact that mainstream Christian culture spent nearly 2,000 years teaching that we killed Christ? This is, like, the ur-antisemitism that's baked into the Western worldview at this point. Seems sort of ridiculous to quibble with the idea that it's the text itself that is problematic.[/quote]

Ok, so the temple aristocracy were his real enemies. But what about the crowd who said "crucify him," what do you make of that?[/quote]

Well, I am Jewish, so I don't take anything in the New Testament as being literally true (nor in the Old Testament, for that matter).

Did the crowd definitely say "crucify him," or did later authors add that so a growing new religion could have an easy foil (i.e., the Jews) for adherents to differentiate themselves from? Even saying "the temple aristocracy were his real enemies" draws on a fundamental assumption that the Jewish establishment is to blame in some form for Jesus's death. This is not just me being sensitive, either; literally generations of attacks on Jews around Europe were justified by simply pointing to this Bible narrative (and/or by extrapolating that the people who killed Christ were also capable of doing whatever other terrible things).

I'm also not trying to say you or any specific posters here are deliberately being antisemitic -- my point is that this whole question is rooted in very, very deep, subconscious biases against Jews that are, by now, simply a part of Western culture. However! That doesn't mean it's ideal when people decide to wallow in those attitudes over the course of this thread...[/quote]
Absolutely all of this. Scripture is not historical fact. We don't have to "make" anything of it.[/quote]

[b]Ok, fair enough. But do you believe anything in the OT?[/b][/quote]

I ask this because some posters on these various religion threads have stated they really do believe the Bible scriptures are truth, or pick and chose the ones they like to support whatever point they are making.  So there is a split of opinion on that.  And while I assume these comments were mostly by Christians, some  probably were by Jewish people too.[/quote]

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