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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]IB participation rate is affected by a lot of things. The proximity of other schools is one, another is preschool capacity-- if a school has to turn away some of its IB preschoolers due to capacity constraint that will make for a lower rate, but it doesn't make it a worse school. Having full Dual Language so kids who want English-only get IB rights elsewhere will bring down the IB percentage, but it doesn't mean anything bad about the school. If part of the zone has grandfathering rights at its former IB school, so that certain kids have IB rights at two schools, again, that doesn't mean anything about the quality. I agree that 19% is pretty low, but IB participation rate isn't a very good metric in general.

Similarly, things that bring in OOB kids can affect the IB percentage but aren't well-correlated with quality. For example, offering self-contained classrooms tends to bring in more OOB kids and their siblings, but it doesn't make the school a worse school. Offering a lot of preschool seats brings in OOB kids who were shut out of their own preschool, but it's not a bad thing and it doesn't mean poor quality.[/quote]

Participation rate tells you how the neighbors feel about their IB school. For some reason none of the things that you mentioned affect the participation rate in elementary schools WOTP.[/quote]

They do, though. Hardly any other schools nearby is a factor-- if Walls or Latin were closer for example that could make a difference. No Dual Language so no alternative feeder options. [/quote]

No, they don’t. We are not talking about your opinion. Look at the data! None of the elementary schools WOTP has the low participation rate that you see EOTP.[/quote]

But WOTP has way fewer charters, citywide DCPSes, etc. Of course fewer students bail if there’s nowhere convenient to go. That’s because those schools were already “good” when charters, etc were introduced, but they absolutely do effect improving EOTP schools now. Look at L-T. Generally spoken of positively on this site. Rocketship transition from large majority OOB, T1, 30% white in a majority white neighborhood to over 60% IB AND over 60% IB participation rate, not T1, plurality white in a sub-10 year period. This in spite of the fact that there are not 1 but 2 all city DCPS in the L-T IB zone. Not near; IN. L-T got to 60+ participation despite close to the majority of students living closer to SWS or CHML. That’s actually incredible. If those schools ceased to exist today, L-T’s IB participation would shoot up. If 2R and 2RY closed too? In the 80s. Younger grades have higher L-T rates because fewer and fewer kids peel off for these schools (other than SWS), but some obviously still do. There’s also the fact that zones on the Hill are tiny compared to WOTP, so kids who live IB for L-T may be less than .5 a mile from multiple other Hill schools (Maury, Brent, Peabody… actually Miner, Tyler & JOW — which is like 3 blocks from L-T — too, but people aren’t leaving for those). The dynamics in much of WOTP are entirely different.[/quote]

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