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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Private school kids are overrepresented at Ivy League and other top schools, relative to the overall student population.

But sure — keep up the myth.[/quote]

I believe you, but this happens in areas where the public schools just can't keep up. The DC area is not a normal metropolis. It is where overly-educated workers congregate, which makes the area public schools really competitive. So for this area, your general statement may not be true.[/quote]

Most of Harvard’s class comes from the Northeast, where public schools are arguably the strongest. Your argument simply doesn’t hold water against actual data.[/quote]

Right, but there are other Ivies than Harvard, and we're talking about a trend - that Ivies recruit LESS from private schools nowadays, compared to before.

I think this conversation is moot anyway, because the REAL problem is that admissions are becoming more and more unpredictable. Test-optional is a nightmare for admissions officers who now lack national standardized data to compare kids across regions and school systems with varying levels of grade inflation. The advantage of high-reputation privates lies in the fact they do not inflate grades, and are therefore "trusted" by colleges, but test-optional is still wreaking havoc on every single high school in the US, public and private. Hence why privately-hired counselors are now advising students to apply to more colleges than ever before - if the candidate is a regular white bread American without an unusual life story, it's a lottery and they have to apply widely.

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But the percentage of kids from private schools going to Ivies hasn’t changed. Unless you can show data that proves otherwise?[/quote]

The point (made upthread) is that the people with the data, private schools, are changing the way they recruit for 9th so that they can maintain the quality of their college lists. They used to pick off the smart kids. Now they pick off VIPs/URMs/athletes. So the numbers from the school are roughly the same, but the analysis for the parents of a smart kid is very different. [/quote]

LOL.

[b]They’ve always given preference to those categories. [/b][/quote]

Completely agree - the only difference is that now those kids need to be in the top 20% of the class/high stats to get admitted to elite colleges. Top half of the class and legacy/URM/VIP isn’t enough anymore.

IMHO as a parent of a Walls grad and a Big 3 grad, the college outcomes were similar. The ivy admits at Walls may have been SLIGHTLY better. Still nearly all legacy/URM/1st Gen and top students like at the Big 3. It’s easier to have all As at Walls than at a Big 3. So if you are a legacy, and want to increase your DC’s chances of getting into an Ivy, Walls is the way to go. Both DCs received an excellent education and got into their 1st choice college.[/quote]

Nice![/quote]

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