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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We lived there briefly. It's very race and class divided. The race part is common to most cities but it's easy to forget certain cities are also very socio-economically segregated. You'll be pigeonholed into your niche pretty quickly. Nitty gritty is fun for a while then it becomes tiresome because the nitty gritty population is just too large. A lot of crap happens in Philadelphia that rarely happens in DC. Center City is wonderful and there are a few other gorgeous neighborhoods but much of the city is dreary and much of the new infill housing is shockingly ugly. [b]Transportation by car around the whole region is a nightmare, including the suburbs. [/b]

Philadelphia is still living off past glories and no number of modern new developments hides that it's one of the great 19th century cities still living in the shadows of its history. It's not where the energy or innovation is these days. Its claim to fame is being cheaper than NYC. But I will also say the dining scene is excellent, both high and low. It's perhaps the only thing I miss about Philadelphia.[/quote]

You can’t be serious. [/quote]

Because transportation by car around the DC area is so much better  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: [/quote]

We live in Baltimore after living in Philadelphia. It takes a lot longer to get around Philadelphia as the roads aren't as efficiently connected and some of the key links out of Center City are limited like the Schuylkill Expressway, which is backed up most of the time. Driving from Center City to the Main Line or back is time consuming because there is no direct expressway, just the train. Mount Airy and Chestnut Hill aren't easily connected outside trains either. By contrast, Baltimore is easy to navigate with the beltway and I-83 from the city to the northern suburbs. The world isn't just Philadelphia and DC, you know  :lol: [/quote]

i agree, i don't understand how philly can have so few direct highways to the places people want to go (are they still using goat paths from the colonial times??) But, I think the lack of an efficient highway system pushes people to public transit so that's a good thing. from many suburbs it is way easier to take the train than to drive into center city. [/quote]

From NW Philly (Chestnut Hill/Mt Airy/East Falls/Manayunk), we often (if not usually) avoid the expressway by taking local neighborhood roads to East River/Kelly Dr to get to Center City.  Of course there are traffic challenges at times, which is the case with any city, but it’s not always a big headache at all. Going to Center City should take about 20 mins using one of the drives during non-rush hour times. Most people I know don’t ever use the Expressway to get from NW Philly to downtown.  [/quote]

The problem would be having to live in one of the neighborhoods cited here. I have friends in Mt. Airy and visit them there and I would have no desire to live there. Just not a nice place to live after having experienced living in DC. They grew up in the Philly area and just don’t have much experience with living anywhere else. The wife lived in New York for a while, but other than that, Philadelphia is their only frame of reference, so they just don’t realize that they could live better elsewhere. 
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