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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Republicans are right on this one. Citizenship should mean something.  You want to vote and participate in government, become a citizen. There is a well-established process for that.  The votes of citizens should never be outweighed by those of non-citizens.  This shouldn't even be controversial.[/quote]

This nonsense, right here is why Republicans still have the votes of moderates and some independents.This nonsense, right here is why Republicans still have the votes of moderates and some independence.

I realize this doesn’t matter in Washington DC but nationally it does. [/quote]

Agree 100%.  Allowing non-citizens to vote is simply stupid.  I have lived overseas on several occasions in democratic countries, and would never have even thought that I somehow was entitled in their elections. [/quote]

Sometimes you can vote in local matters IF you're legal.

What's insane is to try to get ILEGAL immigrants to vote.[/quote]

Some “illegal immigrants” have lived in DC for decades, paid taxes, but can’t naturalize because of administrative irregularities. Does it make sense to not allow them to vote in local elections affecting the neighborhood in which they live but to allow a college student who moved to DC 30 days ago to do so? Again, this law affects local and municipal elections only and no one who lacks the documentation to prove they live in DC is going to be allowed to vote. But of course, as with most things these days, some groups find it politically advantageous to cast the law as something that it isn’t.[/quote]

Show me ONE European country where illegal immigrants can vote, even in local elections.[/quote]

Many do. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-citizen_suffrage[/quote]
non-citizen is not the same as illegal (undocumented) migrant and does not address the PPs question, which I think is a fair question considering so many have posted to claim that this is not an uncommon practice. I am pretty sure that this practice of allowing illegal (undocumented) migrants to vote is exceedingly rare.[/quote]

Somehow I doubt you’re interested in the nuances of this issue but just for shits and giggles, here goes . . .

There is nothing to indicate that those jurisdictions that allow non-citizens to vote exclude those who arrived “illegally” (assuming that they can prove residency), but it’s likely that some do and others don’t. We can assume that the requirements for proving residency are complex there as they are in DC - as much as congressional Republicans may want to have you believe, no one can just show up and be given a ballot paper.

And then there is the question of what an “illegal” is anyway. The bulk of the people crossing the southern border now - those who Tucker et al. refer to as “illegals” - petition for asylum at a border crossing or when they come into contact with CBP. Unless the asylum claim has been denied and removal proceedings initiated, the migrant is not here “illegally”. These migrants also can not be referred to as “undocumented”. Even many who have overstayed their visa or never claimed asylum have a claim to legal presence through temporary protected status (which currently covers nationals of 16 countries), DACA, or other provisions.

Low and behold, things are a little more complicated that populist shitbags would have you believe . . .[/quote]

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