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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is not a MCPS issue it’s a U.S. issue because we want to test and measure every little thing which takes time away from actual instruction.  Parents want Mercedes level education but want to pay Hyundai standard level prices.  Education requires investment in teacher training, teacher salary, and in actual schools and students.  Further, schools do WAAY more than just focus on education including feeding and connection with social services for kids.  They have unfounded mandates like I.D.E.A.

When we remove the politics of the above and address them as though our population matters, we’ll see change.  Until then, people will continue complaining and believing that Charter schools or Private schools can be the answer, only to determine that’s not a panacea. Hi

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Completely false. The US pisses away some of the most money per pupil in the world in education. And for what? Piss poor results. Teachers will always say it is because more money is needed, yet Japan, Singapore, Sweden, South Korea, etc. all spend far less per pupil and absolutely smoke American students across the board.

It is because the US is plagued with loser parents, shitty students, a terrible culture, and way too much dumb emphasis on equality when the only way they implement equality is watering down coursework and lowering the bar. The US is rapidly declining into a developing 2nd world country.[/quote]

Everyone always compares the money spent to other countries without taking into the many varied difference between them.   Mainly culture and government policies.  Other countries have more homogeneous population, are smaller, and have governmental policies that value education and the social well being of its citizens more, thus education is not a political football.  So like I said, it’s a U.S. issue not a MCPS issue.[/quote]

I come from one of those countries that spends far less on student education than the US but gets better "outcomes" on the various international tests. You know what we don't do? Educate kids with special needs. Or make sure every kid has the chance to attend college if they want. Kids with special needs are institutionalized back home. We track kids into remedial classes beginning at 5 years old, often because their parent is a known alcoholic or some other social factor, and don't give them any ramps onto general education. Then, of the kids in general ed, we push about a third of them out at 15 and declare them unqualified to prepare for university. So, yes, the test scores are higher but that's because we only let the kids who are "good at school" take the tests at all.

You can say you want that system because you think your kids will be one of the ones for whom it works, and I'll admit it works very well for those kids. But your kid with ADHD, ASD, dyslexia, or just a little slow to mature? Sorry, that child's on the tractor repair track now and there's nothing you can do about it. [/quote]

It’s been overwhelmingly clear from many, many posts on Dcum from parents and teachers alike that there are a lot of people that don’t care what happens to those students. It’s actually gotten increasingly common for posters to advocate for segregating kids with special or remedial needs into separate programs.[/quote]

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