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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Let's forget passing genetic disorders, abandoning or abusing children and other bigger issues, just passing mediocre looks and IQ and then raising them with little resources while they compete with beautiful, intelligent and resourceful peers, is it really fair? Hard to say but how many parents actually even consider these thoughts? [/b]

Less resources and wisdom parents have, more kids they want to bring to this world. Its a complex issue and no body knows the answer but yes, even with best of intentions and efforts, plenty of mistakes are made.[/quote]

Ooh, in the name of improving this world, let's limit who can procreate.  Let's examine everyone, find the defective ones and sterilize them, so no  future kid will have to suffer.

Wait, hasn't this already been tried somewhere?[/quote]

Having information and resources to make educated decisions isn't the same as decisions being forced upon you. Is it?[/quote]

NP. So the information would be “your average children would have to compete against h average children and having a child wouldn’t really be fair to them?” So not eugenics, just eugenicist propaganda? [/quote]

Don't try to twist the argument of parents taking more responsibility into propagation of eugenics. Cousin marriage is still allowed in most states, no fenetic testing required.[/quote]

There is no way you can compare telling a potential parent that kids are a lot of responsibility with telling potential parents that it might not be fair to bring a child into the world who has below-average looks or intelligence. That’s blatantly eugenicist. If you yourself are even within the realm of average intelligence you can read a Wikipedia page to confirm this. (You could also Google “cousin marriage” and see that it’s legality doesn’t exactly prop up the argument you’re trying to make). [/quote]

I don't see how trying to educate yourself and then making decisions you feel comfortable with is bad but procreating without a thought or plan isn't? You may  secure a better health plan, save more money, gather more vacation time, move to a town with better pediatric care, move near family to have a better support system. There is so much every parent can do to be better prepared for parenting. If you know you may have twins or triplets, you are better off planning for multiples.[/quote]

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