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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But China only wants to protect the people. It’s such a benevolent nation[/quote]

I wouldn’t call them benevolent, but they definitely handled covid better. We could learn a lot from them. Not just in how the government administers it’s authority, but how the people accept it. We’d be better off as a nation if we were more like China. [/quote]

Troll gonna troll[/quote]

I can assure you I’m definitely not a troll.

What I AM is someone who’s had their fill of the “muh freedumbs” idiots over the last few years. Freedumb IS the problem. This country has too much of it, and these idiots can’t handle it. So yes, I admire the Chinese, for the way their citizens understand personal responsibility and for the way the govt doesn’t allow the stupidity we’ve seen here during the pandemic. We the opposite end of the spectrum from China. The ideal point would be somewhere in the middle. Closer to where UK/Canada/Australia/NZ  would’ve been IF they didn’t have their own freedumb loons mucking things up.  Inspired by American freedumb loons, btw.

So yes, I look longingly towards being more like China.

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China is stupid in their own way.  Surely you must realize that.  They resort to lockdowns because they don’t have a decent vaccine.  If they could have provided their citizens that, they likely could have opened up with masks and it would have been ok there.

Also calling anyone who dares to question the cost/benefits of Covid mitigation measures as “freedumbs” shows you are simple minded and most likely sheltered.   What made sense in March 2020 eventually did not anymore.[/quote]
I'm not even sure what we did made sense in March 2020, either. Our public health officials panicked, and basically ignored decades of planning on how to handle disease outbreaks and just kind of engaged in a race to see who could be the most restrictive, before some places decided to dial it back, and eventually end restrictions. It's good that we live in a federal republic, where states could push back on the narrative and try different, less restrictive approaches, rather than being stuck with a top-down, one-size fits all approach. [/quote]

You and I must not have lived in the same 3/2020.  Knowing now what we knew then, I woUld have put a mask on my kid and and kept her in school in the spring, absolutely.   But, we didn’t know anything.  It wasn’t a bad version of a flu virus. It was a novel virus. We didn’t know if it lived on surfaces or for how long. We didn’t know how it was transmitted.   It could have acted more like polio and targeted young kids and killed a significant percent or left them paralyzed or with other lifelong deficits. We didn’t know the incubation period.  It could have been Zika but worse and resulted in millions of deformed babies.  It could have been like HIV but spread person to person.

We didn’t have PPE and we only had PCR tests that were very scarce and took forever. So, no way to contact trace.  And we definitely didn’t have the knowledge. All we had is trusting what China said. Want to bet your kids life on that?  I don’t.

It’s easy to take 2022 knowledge and say we did 2020 wrong. But all we had in March 2020 was a horror show unfolding in China and NYC.

So yes, we needed time. [/quote]

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