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Older people are respected in China and Asia in general. There is no real herd immunity when you are talking about a virus that mutates and they don't have a good vaccine. For some reason they won't use the western vaccine. [/quote]

+1. Aging population + the Chinese vaccine (Synovac ???) isn’t the mRNA technology. And Chinese nationalism prevents them from accepting the mRNA vaccine and admitting the American vaccine is superior.  Also, they told Modera and Pfizer they wouldn’t “accept” their vaccines until they also got the intellectual property. Which for obvious reasons is never gonna happen.

Result: one of the only nations with very little immunity (and still no vaccine).  They have really painted themselves into a corner. They are still where we were in fall 2020, except no vaccine on the horizon.  I’ve seen projections of well over a million deaths of they open back up now. [/quote]

Wow. I didn’t know some of this. Thank you for explaining this all.

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That's BS "explanation".  1) million of deaths for China's population is lower mortality rate than what we had here and that's with all the vaccines and mandates, CCP would not blink an eye at 1 mil deaths if they believed in herd immunity. 2) Moderna and Pfizer were not giving away their vaccines for free, they wanted some contracts and there were strings attached, hence poor countries never got them and affluent countries had to commit to large expensive government contracts and who knows what else (protection from liability, etc).  3) their population isn't anymore aging than populations of Europe or Japan, which took different approaches. 4) I doubt they had no ability to develop mRNA or at least adenovirus vector like Russia managed to do, do you seriously believe they didn't go mRNA/DNA route because they lacked tech or resources or were unwilling to experiment on their population (China treats its people like cattle)?   There are likely other factors including international and internal politics and the scandal that the lab that was associated with gain of function research using similar viruses was located in China.  [/quote]

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