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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the thing: mental health and the difficulty surrounding medical leave decisions are challenging issues at every school but we expect better at *Yale*. Yale has resources and did not need to be this cruel. They seem to want to get the problems off campus and off their watch so as not to tarnish their reputation. We should expect better at all schools. Every student has a bright future and their life is precious. [/quote]

Yale has always had incredibly crappy health services. I never had occasion to use the mental health services, but even when I was there in the late 90s/early to mid 2000s (undergrad and grad), everyone knew the health services were awful. The acronym was DUH (Department of University Health I guess, but everyone called it "duhhhh"). Learning that the mental health services are abysmal does not surprise me in the least.

I loved my time at Yale. But I was never under any illusion that Yale loved me back. It's a big corporation, not a family. It is a mistake to think otherwise. [/quote]

+1. The misunderstanding is that these institutions care about the students. When in reality they are in the money making and reputation building business. [/quote]
+1. As mentioned above a few minutes ago (but this site has since censored - that was fast) Yale is requiring a new product be taken by all students. But not by faculty. Yale and college institutions, as a rule, do not care about student well-being in the traditional sense of the term.[/quote]

Colleges are not responsible for the well-being.  They are responsible to educate.  This isn't a boarding school where there are specific caretakers.  Students are adults and expected to care for themselves.[/quote]
I agree with that. The issue presented is Yale pressuring students to withdraw (apparently in the heat of the moment, so to speak) and/or not allowing return following leave of absence.[/quote]

What would you do instead? They clearly don’t want the liability in case the student died. They are not mental health providers, what would you do? If the student is struggling and they feel Yale is not the right place for them then they were right to have the students leave. The students and if the parents were sensible would do this on their own. But as mentioned before, people care too much about the prestige and their ego comes into play when thinking about these decisions.[/quote]

Have better mental health services on campus.  The guy pressuring the student to withdraw in the main story is, indeed, a psychologist.

Also, if they’re going to force people out in these cases, they need to make it easy for them to return.  This really isn’t that hard.  Be humane, FFS.[/quote]

They have mental health services on campus but at this level, they cannot adequately provide care and make sure the student is safe without someone with eyes on 24/7.  We are talking about severely mentally ill students who are suicidal.[/quote]

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