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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My older daughter was "taught to read" using this shit approach and is STILL behind and not reading well. F_ her kindergarten teacher.[/quote]

You could take part of the blame as well. It’s not all on teachers.[/quote]

Why? This was my first child and I trusted the school to teach my child how to read, and I trusted them when I said "she can't read these specific beginner books, is that a problem?" and they said "nope, she's right where she should be." How was I to know any better? I think he moral of the story here is you can't trust educators, which is so, so sad.[/quote]
Spot on, that's why parents have to be the primary source of teaching for their children until they can fly solo (hopefully by middle school). Listen to, be respectful, but take teacher feedback with some skepticism; you as a parent can (and should) independently assess your kid at a young age and draw your own conclusions in addition to teacher, to reduce risk.[/quote]

That’s fine and all but in a two parent working household why all the high property taxes to fund schools whose employees now say ‘do it yourself’.  If we are Home Depot’ing it than please let’s cut the 3 billion dollar budgets of MCPS and FCPS and we will redirect funds to teach ourselves the science of learning or find a tutor immersed in direct instruction, phonics, abacus method for math, et al.  [/quote]

No one is saying “do it yourself”. All the posts say things need to happen at school and home.[/quote]

So what happens to the kids whose parents don't speak English well? Or read themselves? Or who work 80 hour jobs to put food on the table and don't have time for enrichment for their kids, or money to buy games and puzzles? We just assume those kids will fail? This is why public schools were created in America - to help ALL the kids learn - not just the ones whose parents can do part of the teaching at home. [/quote]

Presumably they end up dyslexic and incarcerated like they deserve for not attending school faithfully enough like a PP suggested.

I'm not fighting back against this crap only for my kid, it's for these kids. These people exist and lots of them are doing everything they possibly can and then some. They are not less worthy of a basic education than the rest of us.[/quote]

Right, but remember that during the election when people attack CRT and reading programs.  Sorry to make this political, but education is a mix of politics and money at all times.

Phonics is not going to cure poverty and dyslexia.  Can it help to have more systematic phonics instruction?  Yes a little
 Is it going to rid the world of these issues?  Absolutely not.

Republican strategy is to get upset about school decisions and say no one is listening to parents and parent rights should rule. Meanwhile laws have already been passed mandating phonics in Virginia.

The larger game is that Republicans are trying to get people to vote for Republicans under the premise that they will pass already passed laws and give “parent’s rights”.  Once they are elected into the state legislature and school boards, the plan is give to school vouchers to private schools and open charters which will lead to the erosion of public school systems.

You can of course write this off crazy and are currently free to vote how you would like to.  Republicans watched Youngkin win on this platform and it is working well for them in other places so they will continue to use it.
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I'm not sure I follow this post, but I haven't kept up with who pushed the phonics legislation. But I agreeing with the PP that public schools should serve all. Are you saying Republicans pushed the phonics legislation through while also trying to dismantle the same public schools? If so, I didn't know that.[/quote]

^^I meant I know they are pushing vouchers. I'm not following the rest of the post.[/quote]

Sorry, I’m saying creating more discord around public schooling only serves Republican purpose more.  (Hence the focus on CRT). Parents who are ragingly upset about phonics/reading instruction when legislation has already passed in VA are only serving to stoke those fires and outrage at this point. That may or may not be intentional on the part of parents/posters, but it is a consequence of the teacher, reading instruction and school bashing that happens here and other places.

I think Republicans are counting on the fact that no one realizes that legislation was already passed and want to tap into the outrage to garner votes. They do have a strong history of being able to do that.

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Republicans are counting on the fact that suburban parents open their eyes and realize that the schools are not infallible. They jumped right on board the latest fad being pushed by the teacher colleges and they’re doing it again w grading for equity/std based grading. This whole literacy scandal should be a wake up call for parents. We must demand research and data when we see new trends being pushed. [/quote]

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