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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There must be many hundreds of kids of both genders with As in math and science and 99th percentile MAP. How do they differentiate? Did not attend the open house but the information being shared here is confusing.[/quote]

Not true. I believe there are about 11,000 current eighth graders. Which means that the top 1 percent is 110 kids. There are 200 places county wide in SMACS for example, plus IB programs, CAP and others. And not all of those kids will have all As. Now I know you will claim that the MCPS scores skew much higher, but that’s simply not true. My child bought home their MAP report this week and it clearly shows the MCPS averages are almost identical to the national.[/quote]

You do know how averages work right? The argument is that the distribution is different in MCPS with a lot at the top and a lot closer to the bottom making the average about the same as the average nationally but meaning there is a lot more competition at the top.[/quote]

Mean.   You’re talking about the mean.  That’s probably what the PP was using when s/he wrote “average,” but it could be the median, too.

Sure, there probably are more high-achieving kids, proportionally, in MCPS than in the rest of the country, but I think the idea that everyone has to have straight As and amazing everything is misguided and more about the parents than the kids.[/quote]

On what basis are you claiming there are more high achieving kids in the county than elsewhere? These assumptions are made every time this comes up but the only actual evidence suggests otherwise.[/quote]

What evidence?  This county has one of the most highly educated parent populations in the country.  Do you think that doesn’t matter for their children’s achievement?  [/quote]

The actual data that has been released showing the numbers closely tracking. I’ll take data over your “this area is so highly educated it must be true” any day.[/quote]

Then SHOW the actual data.  Link to it.  I could very well be wrong, but you haven’t shown anything to suggest otherwise.[/quote]

I’m not sure if this is directly comparable but this document shows that the mean MAP-M score for fall 8th grade in 2019 and 2020 was about 210. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED614789.pdf The NWEA docs show that 225 is about the 50th percentile nationally, so this seems to suggest that MCPS is performing more poorly than national for 8th grade.[/quote]

I think you are reading the wrong table -- the 210 for 8th grade fall MAP-M shows up in table 9, which is "limited English proficiency (LEP)" students.  Table 7 shows an average of 233 for all students.[/quote]

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