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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s sad and incredible that some on this thread equate US military actions with those of Russia and the like. Sure, the US is not perfect, but there is a MASSIVE difference. For example, compare how the US fights with precise bombs on military targets vs. Russia’s indiscriminate shelling of towns, civilian infrastructure, train stations, and civilian convoys. Sure, the US sometimes hits the wrong target, but ON THE WHOLE, the US actually fights MUCH more cleanly. Also, consider how prisoners of war are treated. Yes, the US lost its moral compass a bit immediately following 9/11, but we stopped those practices and they were the exception, not the rule. Russia ROUTINELY beats, tortures, and mutilates its POWs. Again, there is no equivalency. [/quote]

Russia could use the same logic that the US exercised in WW2. In WW2, the Japanese were not going to surrender unconditionally. The US was not willing to spend more lives to force an unconditional surrender by the Japanese. The use of the atomic bomb forced the Japanese to finally surrender. Russia could employ the same logic. They want to end the loss of Russian lives in the war. They know that Ukraine is NOT going to surrender unconditionally. They won't conditionally surrender either. So the actions would be comparable. The reasons for these actions are the difference.

Russia has tried to swing the WW2 angle by claiming Nazis, but they haven't really proven it. They have made some vague territorial claims. We didn't attack Japan with occupation in mind or any misguided attempt to find hidden Nazis. But, we also didn't give the Japanese an opportunity for a conditional surrender. A conditional surrender was rejected at Yalta by the Allies for any Axis countries. It's not clear which Allies knew that the US could drop an atomic bomb and would almost certainly have to target civilian population centers in order to damage the Japanese war machine. Would the Allies have approved such measures instead of accepting a conditional surrender? No one knows. [/quote]

If you really want to go back to the past and WWII, and make fair comparisons, I would remind everyone that in the exact same time period Stalin was busy killing millions in his own little holocaust (the holodomor).  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor  In this modern day case, Russians ARE the Nazi's, aggressors, genocidal maniacs, rapists, murderers, invaders - all rolled into one.

If you believe Russian leadership is moral, has a sense of fair play international law -- does it really make sense they would invade, rape, murder, etc. if they did respect all those things?  If you do, you're a fool.[/quote]

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