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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you’d like to join an organization that basically did a sorry/not sorry on decades of sexual abuse then sure. If not, then no.[/quote]

I know that they've cleaned house and changed their policies, but between this and the years of being anti-LGBTQ, I just couldn't do it[/quote]

+1 Not enough reform.

“Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about things that matter.” - MLK Jr.

Supporting/participating in the Boy Scouts is tacit approval. They have made strides in some areas, not so much in others.[/quote]

Curious to know what enough reform would be for you?  They now accept LGBTQ members.  They gave a strong youth protection policy.  They need to solve world hunger?  What are you looking for?[/quote]

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I would like to know this, too.
If people are already cleaning house, changing policies, speaking publicly about previous sins AND working for change, what else can they do? [/quote]

Disappear [/quote]

NP here.  I hope those of you are are completely unforgiving of the BSA are equally strident about other organizations that have abused minors.

So, I hope that you are trying to get USA Gymnastics shut down, and the Catholic Church, high school football, college lacrosse and collegiate fraternities.  All of these have had rampant sexual abuse of children and minors.  All of them continue to provide programming.  Most of them are in the same category of "not enough restitution" to their victims and most of them try to conceal the extent of the abuses that occurred within their organizations.

There are many organizations out there that have given protective cover for terrible, evil people who abused minors within their ranks.  The BSA has had a LOT more reform in documented training and leadership and changes of practice than virtually all of those organizations.  
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Some of the groups you listed are organizations and some are categories. Yes there’s absolutely no way I would leave my child in the care of the Catholic Church.. But “high school football” is not a single organization which had a sex abuse cover up— I would not let my kid participate in a program if it had.

The issue is also not that they haven’t paid “enough” restitution, because I personally don’t think there’s an “enough” that makes up for the betrayal. It’s actively trying to reduce the amount, declare bankruptcy to avoid paying, and continuing not to help the victims which I think makes it unlikely that the organization has genuinely changed.[/quote]

That is pretty much standard business practice.  It was done for asbestos, talc powder (J&J), oxycotin, [/quote]

Does that make you feel like they are more trustworthy? That they will be incentivized to report and immediately take action if your child is being molested? Or will they follow their standard business practice and lie and cover it up, meanwhile your child suffers trauma?

I wouldn’t leave the Sackler family in charge of my child either but I think that’s an AWFULLY low bar against which to measure an institution which claims to be working in the service of children. [/quote]

OK..fair point on the Sacklers but this is just common practice for class action suits.

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I’m sure you’re right about it being common practice, but it’s execution has made them, in my view, even less trustworthy with the safety of children. [/quote]

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