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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She came from really humble roots. She speaks in an uncultured accent.

She about to become pm of a g7 country.

Nothing was ever really handed to her. She “leans in”

Interesting that she isn’t being championed as a “girl boss” just because she has different political views

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Because she's a feckin Fascist. Like, openly Fascist. Jesus.[/quote]

That’s for Italy to decide if they want to follow that path or not as long as votes aren’t tampered with during elections.

Is she running a sham election or taking over the country with an army?

I dont support her politics, but i also dont support not letting her air her views in public discourse [/quote]

In talking about her an Italian said that the only good thing about her is that she is an unknown entity and hasn't yet disappointed the Italians.   
Migration is driving the right wing political agenda in Europe and will become even worse as [b]climate migrants[/b] continue to push into European countries.  The Italians fell for fascism before -- let them try again. [/quote]

WTH is "climate migrants"?  Most migrants are from sh**hole countries.  They aren't falling apart because of climate  :roll:  In fact many of these countries have amazing climate where there is no harsh winter, extreme weather, and where everything grows.  Some of these countries have great natural resources too.  They don't have more extreme weather than FL or Southwest.  [/quote]

I recently attended a climate lecture that validates your point.  The lecturer said that climate change had actually brought more rain to the area of Africa he worked in, which benefited the local crops.  Migration actually was a problem for the area, as they lacked resources to do the farming.  However, migration continues for social reasons; apparently, it is socially prestigious to have a child in Europe.

He completely dismissed the idea of climate migration, saying this was a scare term for Europeans to get them to implement anti-climate change policies lest they be over run by hordes of "climate" migrants from Africa.  So in some sense the term is actually racist.[/quote]

Pay no attention to long-term climate changes tied to historic records for drought, flooding and extreme temperatures.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/05/18/climate-change-made-india-heatwave-100x-more-likely-uk-met-office.html[/quote]

Ok, but this is experienced in the wealthy countries as well, is that not? Why aren't we seeing excess of refugees from our flooded and dried up and fire prone areas in the US?  Most of the refugees seem to come from the unstable countries, not from our areas beaten up by repeated hurricanes, dried up rivers and yearly fires.  [/quote]

Climate is intertwined with other factors like natural resources, economic opportunity and political stability. There are going to always be multiple factors contributing to migration decisions. But when adverse events like floods or droughts happen, it will disproportionately affect vulnerable people who were eking out marginal livelihoods and living in marginally habitable places. You don't see so many refugees from flooded/drought-ridden places within the US because intra-country migration is less visible, but also because there is both public mitigation / assistance and private insurance that makes it easier for people in the US to rebuild and continue to live there if they wish. But if you are living in a marginally habitable area of Tigray (Ethiopia) where there is civil war AND no UN aid is being allowed in AND there is an ongoing multi-year drought, many people are going to either move or die. Those people, in my reckoning, may be climate migrants, economic migrants, and political refugees simultaneously.

Though on the note about wealthy countries, it is actually getting increasingly difficult/expensive to live in high wildfire-risk areas in California due to both stricter building regulations and higher insurance rates. Same for Floridians in hurricane areas on the insurance front. It won't be a sharp massive exodus since we have both public and private "cushions" to help people after natural disasters, but I would predict a gradual outflux and population decline in the highest-risk areas.[/quote]

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