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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am quite sure this is not as widespread as the pyschos on this board suggest.[/quote]

Plenty of Asian parents are fed up with their kids being discriminated against and being held to an impossible standard.  The system is rigged against them, why not play the game?[/quote]

Have you seen the make up of Ivy campuses? My kid was admitted to several T15. Asian kids are over represented. At one Ivy, Asian was the majority race of the admitted students group that day. Stop playing the victim.  Many Asian families think there is some recipe to a T15 and now claim discrimination.  It's holistic admissions,  and every T15 campus has a large cohort of Asian kids. Much larger than population percentages would suggest. Even if these schools filled all their spots with Asian kids, it would still result in overwhelming rejection for most Asian kids. [/quote]

Same thing happened with Jews many decades ago but now they make up about 25% of Ivy schools when they make up 2% of the population. That is 12 times the population but you don't hear about how Jews are extremely over-represented. Asians make up about 6% of the population and make up about 18% of Ivy schools - approximately 3 times the population.

Without discrimination in college admissions, the % would be about 60% not 18%. There is your discrimination.[/quote]

Ahh, it’s the anti-Semitic Asian posting again.  Get your facts straight. Jews don’t come anywhere close to 25% at the Ivy’s. At best half that and at most it’s lower. And at MIT and CMU, they are only 5% of the population. [/quote]

DP: might you be an anti-Asian Jew? What previous PP is saying, be it 12 or 25%, is esentially correct. Jews are "overrepresented" if you use the same racial thinking applied to Asians, and it is deeply unfair (and deeply surprising) that you seem to support that the same injustice done to Jews historically now be done to Asians.

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I don’t support discrimination against anyone based on their race or religion or anything else for that matter.  And I know many Asians feel, whether rightly or wrongly, that they are held to a higher standard.  But if you want to have an honest discussion about the issue, you need to be honest about the facts.  Asians are what, 5-6% of the US population. They make-up over 25% of the student body at almost every top 20 school. And at some of those schools, such as MIT and CMU, they are over half the population.  Jews, on the other hand, are 5% or less of the student body at MIT and CMU. CMU doesn’t even have it’s own Hillel anymore— they have to share one with Pitt.  And I will add, CMU is only 22% white.  
I understand why Asians who don’t get into their top choice of school are upset, especially when they have great credentials. But it’s not exactly fair to say they are being uniformly discriminated against when they are accepted in such high numbers. Just because a student, whether Asian, Jewish, or something else, has perfect grades, test scores, great ECs, etc., doesn’t mean they “deserve” admission. These schools can fill their classes many times over with “perfect” candidates. And I assure you, I know just as many Jews who were “perfect” candidates yet were denied admissions as you do Asians. The admissions office is looking at a whole host of things, including letters of recommendation, essays, etc.  You have no idea how each of these “perfect” candidates look when looking at the larger picture.  Maybe some write crappy essays.  Others might get mediocre teacher recommendations.  And some might have ECs that the admissions committee sees through. 
And, whether you like it or not, schools don’t want their entire population to be homogeneous.  They want diversity in race, religion, gender, socio economic status, etc.  So no, they do not want 100% of their student body to be Asian.  And nor should they.  And nor should any Asian American want to send their kid to a school in the US that is 100% Asian.  [/quote]

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