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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I want to see Russian bled dry and right now, our policy and treasure is doing that. I think we're committed at this point and pulling back would only emboldened Putin. How much have we spent? $10+ billion? It's a small price to pay to see one of our biggest adversaries reduced to a third-rate power.[/quote]

I mean… they’ve always been third rate. But it’s delightful to have it displayed for all the world to see.[/quote]

A third rate army is sitting on 20% of Ukraine.  It's hard to imagine what a second rate army would have been able to do, or, god forbid, a first-rate one![/quote]

Well I guess we’ll never know, since Russia really sucks at this.[/quote]

And that is Ukraine's good luck.  Actually, it's Ukraine's super good luck that it was Russia that attacked it.  If it was attacked by, say, some obscure Eastern European state like Moldova or Montenegro, all it would get would be some phd types on PBS digging up twelfth century battles and historical details of things no one cares about.  Also, this program would have the viewership of maybe twelve people, including family members of these phd types.   And if it was, like Niger attacking Chad, well not a single white person would care.  But since it is Russia, the country the West decided it will hate because it simply refuses to be led, Ukraine is getting pummeled, yes, but it's also getting tons of sympathy points, and once the war is over, it will get tons of aid.  So, there is the silver lining. Just like it was Palestinians' good luck to be oppressed by Israel, and not, say, Yemen. Because Arabs oppressed by other Arabs get bubkes by way of Western attention or sympathy.[/quote]

WTH.  People hate Russia because they've got nukes and they threaten to use them. 
And they bomb the daylight out of other countries (Syria, anyone?)  Nice white washing.[/quote]

If you're American, you have no grounds to blame other countries for bombing the daylight out of anything, since America does this with abandon.  [/quote]

Russia still beats us at that by a mile. One doesn't have to think of the US as without fault to realize that Russia is top of the class in that regard.[/quote]

LOL no it doesn't.

Count American and American-led military invasions in the last 20 years.  Now count Russia-led ones.  Compare two numbers.

Count the casualties in #1.  Now count the casualties in #2.  Compare two numbers.

Now, count the number of American military bases around the world.  Now, count the Russian ones.  Compare two numbers.[/quote]
Why don’t you provide the data? Can’t do math?[/quote]

Crimea, Donbass, Transnistria, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Nagorno Karabash, Chad, Mali, Central African Republic, Syria.

This year alone theyve threatened to invade the UK, Finland, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria as well.

But why limit it to 20 years.  How many years out of the past 200 has Moscovy been peaceful towards their neighbors?[/quote]

If we’re going back years then England takes the cake.

Colonizer devils that terrorized worldwide.

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Maybe but they've at least learned from their past and reformed.  Muscovy and its successor states, the USSR and Russia, just double down on the oppression and aggression each time they change.

The list of countries that have started a war of territorial expansion since WW2 is very small.   China with Tibet, Iraq with Kuwait, Indonesia with East Timor, and Russia with Ukraine on multiple occassions as well as Moldova, Georgia, and Azerbaijan.[/quote]

That's laughable.  They stole trillions of dollars from other countries through murder, rape, slavery, and colonization.  Then when there was not much left to take they went back home and continue to live off that compounded stolen money.

The entirety of their museums are stolen artifacts and they are PROUD of it. They parade around their Queen and the "glory" of their Commonwealth and tell other nations they don't believe in returning stolen items.

They are actually the worst.  They still believe they were God's gift to the world and they actually made the places they colonized better. They've re-written the history of billions of indigenous people around the world. No remorse, no "learned from the past". And they still had colonized nations until almost 1950.

The territorial expansions since then are simply that-territorial expansion-and the countries doing them are not trying to be perceived as saviors. They're pretty upfront about their wickedness. And you'd be foolish to not realize that the West has had a dirty hand in several of those territorial expansions whenever it suit their desires.

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“Russia is openly being a dickhead. So, it’s ok!”[/quote]

Russia has been operating in dozens of countries around the world, training, arming and funding rebel groups, terrorist groups, insurgencies, intended to topple dictatorships and destabilize regions in order to weaken and dilute the west while gaining more power and influence for Russia.  [/quote]

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