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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I see it as part of a larger trend toward coddling grown adults so they don't have to be responsible adults making good on their obligations. It's along the same line as people shouting "cancel rent!" I mean, come on. It's time to grow up all the way.[/quote]

I mean, in the nostalgic past to which you are referring, most people did not go to college and if they did, loans were not available to them at all. You could actually work your way through a public college in 4 years with a relatively low paying job (waiting tables, retail, etc.).

I do actually think that young people today are immature and expect things to be easy. But ask yourself why that is true. Is it something inherent to this generation? No, it's how they were raised. We've created a culture where kids feel entitled to an education, but also feel pressured to get one. Where we have replaced expectations of independence (supporting yourself and your family) at a relatively young age with an amorphous expectation of "success" (impressive degrees, owning a home) at a relatively young age. The expectations for young people today are often shallow and nonsensical, but they are being pushed not by peers but by THEIR PARENTS. You think kids get expensive graduate degrees because their friends are doing it? No, they do it because their families have expectations of a certain kind of success and class status, and graduate school has been presented as a way to get there.

This is a mess of our own making. The idea that young people independently decided to start going to college and graduate school in bigger numbers, decided on their own to take out loans (which didn't used to even be available like this!), and are now struggling with the consequences of their own choices is silly -- this is a Boomer problem and it needs Boomers to help solve it. Yup, that might mean some loan forgiveness. The whole situation is dumb but it wasn't created by 18 yo kids making bad choices. It was created by their parents.[/quote]

If we want social mobility, [b]then kids should feel entitled to higher education.[/b] Independence at 18 usually means a crappy minimum wage job with no future prospects. This isn't 1960 where you can leave high school, join at local factory and have a great union job until you are ready to retire with a nice pension   [/quote]

I'm actually one of the people who believe community colleges should be free. However, I don't believe kids are entitled to an *expensive* education studying a subject that has limited earning potential, paid for by other people.

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The maximum federal student loans you can take out for your undergraduate education is $57,500.  That's under 15k year. People reach the maximum loan burden for  just going to college--the average in-state tuition and fees in this country is 11000/yr and that doesn't include any room and board.  And plenty of states don't have any school that inexpensive. [/quote]

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