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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Friedman sees that biden’s nato triumph will end in tears as Europeans chafe under extraordinary natural gas, fuel, and electric prices.[/quote]

Ding ding ding.

And it’s not Friedman who sees it - he’s literally being told by the highest levels in the WH they are concerned about this massively .

I don’t think people get just how precarious things are in developed parts in Europe right now.

Yes the food is great and the walkable neighborhoods are awesome and there are less fat people which is a huge bonus but you can feel a huge sense of things are gonna fall off a cliff soon and it is all unsustainable.

European political-economy does not work with energy costs this high. Their entire model breaks.

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It’s warm out. No rush.[/quote]

Do you know Europeans well enough to ask them what percentage of their salary is going to energy?  Didn’t think so or you wouldn’t be so damn flippant[/quote]

How much?[/quote]

My family spent 900 euros a month for heat last winter just on tension run up- in a country with an avg salary of 1200 euros.  This winter heating their home will exceed the average salary.  Plus electric plus fuel plus inflation run up.[/quote]

If something doesn’t give we’ll have a new government lining up with Orban position.  Wait for it[/quote]

Yep.

Orban is gross, and I particularly don’t care for Magyars and other assorted Central European people.

But he’s right on the Russia v USA thing being just another great power completion thing that is based on energy, market access and geostrategic interests and Europeans are caught with their pants down.

Hungarians should be kicked out of eu and the us needs to refocus a core eu around France, west Germany, Spain, Portugal, Benelux, Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

EU27 has fundementally different interests.

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