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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Winner if everyone was studying an extra hour or two a day things would be very different same with sports

There needs to be a way to differentiate between talent and spending more time at something.  Aap should be based on talent not time spent preparing.[/quote]

[b]This idea that there is such a thing as 'intelligence' or 'talent' that is meaningful without effort, and that it is somehow more 'real' than achievements that are worked for is a distortion (one that is more common in American culture than many others).  [/b]

I think the difference to me is that spending more time at something to get good at the actual thing (e.g., reading, writing, mathematics, arts, science, sports) is worthwhile, what I think would be problematic is if you are spending most of the time to beat some artificial hoop (e.g., Cogat test) rather than spending the effort to excel at what actually matters.  I get why people do it, but it's a sign of a flawed system.[/quote]

It may or may not be a distortion - but it's why GT programs were created.  There are some kids who can learn something after hearing it once, while most children need to hear something repeated several or many times, as well as lots of practice, to understand a concept.  GT programs are supposed to find the first group of kids and give them a place (whether for an hour or a day a week or in FCPS a separate class) where they can hear something once, learn it, and move on to the next concept without having to hear it repeated over and over again for the rest of the class.  That's "innate", not an achievement.

There's a lot of pushback now against innate talent/intelligence, because we are focusing now on "growth mindset" and "everyone can do math" but that doesn't mean that some kids learn differently/more quickly than others.  It just means those kids are out of fashion right now.[/quote]

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