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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At this point it looks like, and the conventional wisdom seems to be, Russia will get the eastern regions and some decent productive assets, and Ukraine will remain as a poor rump state, but still somewhat of a buffer.

I don't think any of the western leaders at this point are operating under a private belief that we're going to continue to provide the massive materiel and financial subsidies needed to continue this war indefinitely.[/quote]

It doesn’t cost much to give just enough to Ukraine to turn it into Afghanistan on Russia’s doorstep.

That’s the goal.

Western foreign affairs planners are drooling at this possibility.

Id gladly give Ukraine 10 billion a year to indefinitely needle and grind Russians.

Let Slavs fight other Slavs [/quote]

In the words of Chas Freeman, you want to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Remember that in the "we gave Russia Afghanistan" scenario, Afghanistan was turned into a hellhole and remains one to this day.   Please understand this is the path you're paving for Ukraine.  [/quote]

Yes. Great power politics is back.[/quote]

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