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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To my knowledge Law is the only profession where even 20 years out, one lawyer will ask another - where did you go to school? And they mean both undergrad and law. And I guess, hearing from legal friends, being able to say Cornell Yale is more prestigious than saying Wooster Yale. [/quote] I'm a lawyer of this vintage and this is just not true. No one asks! [/quote] Funny. People always check lawyers (and doctor's) before they are hired. They always show up on Google search. Only a no-named school grad insists they don't matter. [/quote] Different PP. Law school matters. Undergrad does. not. matter. for law, as the attorneys in this thread have explained. I don't know why that's so hard for nonlawyers to believe. [/quote] Lol, all the free legal advice you see on here are worth what you pay for. They are free for reason. Everyone's law school and undergrad school is visible because there's demand for those info. Undergrad matters Yale and YLW or Yale and Yale Med school is different from the University of Phoenix and Western School of Law or the University of Phoenix and the U of Guadalupe Med school. [/quote] Undergrad is visible simply because, as a degree, it's a natural part of the resume. But, BigLaw hiring partners don't care, sorry. You can attend University of Utah, HLS, and work at an elite firm. TCU and HLS. Lake Forest College and HLS. Santa Clara undergrad and Stanford law. Bradley University in Illinois and Northwestern. I know people with each of these combinations. No one cares about the undergrad; it is simply a triviality in their personal history, like where someone grew up. But sure, if you want to pay for advice, go ask ANY law school admission consultant and they will tell you what matters, college GPA and LSAT. Not undergrad.[/quote] If you need a life-threatening medical scenario, who would you choose? University of Phoenix undergrad and the U of Guadalupe Med school. or Yale and Yale Med school? If you were charged with a serious crime and looking at 50+ years behind bars, who would you choose? the University of Phoenix undergrad and Western School of Law Yale and YLW? And what's the chance of the University of Phoenix undergrad and YLS? It happens and you might see it more with legitimate state schools and YLS - but they are not all that common because of the quality of the undergraduate school. If you refuse to believe it, why don't we ever see an Anne Arundel Community College and YLS combo? [/quote] U of Phoenix is for profit. Don't go there. Community college doesn't lead to a bachelor's degree. Any state flagship is fine. JMU, GMU are fine. VT is obviously fine. Wooster and Bates are fine and neither one will increase chances of admission to law school over the other one, nor will BigLaw hiring partners care, if they are even familiar with them. [b]In criminal practice, such as your example where "your life is on the line," prestige matters less, not more.[/b] Criminal practice is entirely different and not what people are typically referring to by "BigLaw" (although some big law firms may have a criminal practice group). BigLaw discussions refer to various practice areas involving corporate clients (that is where the money is), i.e. commercial litigation and transactional being the most basic way to describe them, though there are narrower ways as well. You may not want to believe it, so go ahead, find a law school admission consultant and ask.[/quote] 100%. Big firm lawyer who attended a t-14 school here. If I were charged with a crime, I would hire the meanest former DA/US Attorney shark I could find. I could not care less about where they went to college or law school. The only “white shoe” firm I would consider is Williams & Connelly, and then only if it were a “white collar” crime.[/quote]
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