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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Gun control[/quote]

Gun control has nothing to do with making MCPS safer.  MCPS is doing nothing.  Most parents wanted them to remove SRO's and police from the schools.  They did.  [/quote]

How did the police do in Uvalde? Or Parkland?

Don’t get me wrong, I support having SROs in schools. I just think it is ridiculous to think they’d stop school shootings.[/quote]

They didn't do well but that's not a justification to not have them.  If they did their job they would have gone in, killed the killer and got those kids medical attention and that is the point.
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If these incidents are representative, SROs will stand around, run away or arrest parents. [/quote]

There have been SRO's who have also saved lives.  [/quote]

Neat. What percentage of the very, very long list of school shootings in the US since the 90s were stopped by SROs?

Hint:  damn few.[/quote]

Here’s a report with some statistics for you: 
https://cops.usdoj.gov/RIC/Publications/cops-w0903-pub.pdf

It highlights 236 cases, of which 168 were adverted. It also contains twelve case studies of SRO-related events. On a personal level, I witnessed the SRO at my high school remove three knives and one gun from students, all taken without incident. He did a lot more than that, but those are the incidences I witnessed with my own eyes. The simple truth is there are many of us who have seen the value of SROs.

We all know the MoCo council pulled SROs without actually surveying the community. Instead, they listened to a small, yet vocal group. We also know that the principals were unanimous in wanting them to remain. 
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In almost every case in that truth the situation was diverted by a student, teacher, principal or behavioral specialist.

Having an armed guard at a school is the #1 reason a psycho thinks they need an AR15.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7887654/

SROs make schools less safe.[/quote]

You are welcome to hate SROs, but you are also going to have to accept facts. If you actually look at that report, you’ll realize you are incorrect. As for being “diverted by a student,” I have personally witnessed how that actually happens… 4 times. Students don’t disarm their peers. Students tell adults, who get the SRO to do the disarming. If that’s what you mean by “divert,” then I think we would both have to agree SROs are still necessary.

Again… you may hate SROs all you want. I suspect the majority of MCPS is in support of them, but we won’t know until the BOE or the council decides to send out a survey. I doubt they will since they may not like the results.[/quote]

I don’t hate SROs my family has many police officers, lawyers and judges. I know SROs never disarm a gunman, never… not once.  They are ineffective window dressing.

They call for real police just like a teacher, student or principal can do. They are a useless step in the process.

You can love window dressing all you want but your ignorant anecdotes don’t mean SROs help with shootings. Gun control does.

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My statistics and real-world anecdotes were countered with insults. When you can back up your beliefs with something other than hate, we may get somewhere. Until then, I’ll just be thankful that logic is prevailing and SROs are being reinstated. 
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You don’t have statistics and if you’ve seen 4 SROs disarm students  you are delusion and need therapy.

Being ignorant is not an insult it’s a call to educate yourself.

If a farmer told me I was ignorant about farming it would be a correct statement not an insult  and I’d listen Instead of talk.

SRO reinstatement is a.waste of money and a call to a psycho they need more fire power. Enjoy your future AR15 day.

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Once again, you bring nothing but insults to the table. Your absurd comments regarding ignorance are highly ironic; you refuse to listen to somebody who has presented statistics (see link above) and true anecdotal evidence. 18 years in a high school? I’ve seen A LOT.

I have yet to see you present anything but denial. At this point, I recognize I’m arguing with someone incapable of having a logical discussion about school safety. (Actually, I figured that out already…)[/quote]

I ousted the student and links to organizations that have a sole purpose of protecting the world from gun violence.

All you presented was uneducated teachers/students/parents with no background or knowledge of how to keep schools safe.

Do you have A real study that shows 1x an SRO stopped a gun from coming to school because they intercepted it from coming into the school? One?[/quote]

This is the last time I’m responding because I’m tired of repeating myself. I posted pages of case studies earlier in this thread. Also, you are going to call teachers and others who work directly with students “uneducated”? Even if you meant educated specifically about student safety, you are *still* wrong. Teachers undergo regular training and work daily to create safe environments.

I suspect you are also the poster upthread who told me I am “delusional and need therapy” if I believe I’ve witnessed SROs take weapons from students. You don’t get to change reality. I’ve seen it multiple times, as have scores of other teachers. That, in a way, was also an education for me. I’ve seen SROs in action. This isn’t some simple theoretical exercise to me, which is why I get rather annoyed when people post unsupported claims and blanked statements.[/quote]

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