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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are these legal battles the best use of fcps tax dollars? Maybe if they spent more money on other aap programs people wouldn’t need to clamor so hard to get into the scarce resource that’s TJ

Just get rid of all race on apps[/quote]

TJ doesn’t have race on the app. 
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[b]Disparate impact[/b] is a recognized legal theory.[/quote]

Interesting. So if certain races have much lower acceptance rates & enrollment #s than others is that a disparate impact?
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It basically means something that is race neutral can still be found to be discriminatory if it results in having a disparate impact on a protected class. Something that is race neutral can be a proxy for doing something racist if it has the result of being discriminatory against certain races. It depends on the facts and who and how it impacts. [/quote]

Right. So the current admissions process has a disparate impact on admissions for URMs — significantly lower rates of admission. 
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Is that what the facts show? What if you look at % of applicants of each race who applied that are accepted? [/quote]

Yes. We already did that analysis on another thread. 
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Ok thanks. Why do we only care about URMs? There are poor Asians. And we didn’t have Hispanic people as slaves so it’s not reparations for them to be URMs. Sorry if that was already discussed. [/quote]

Because the Asians in this region are overrepresented and stereotyped as being wealthy and privileged.  Some would even call them white adjacent.  People don't think they deserve to have 70% representation in the school when they are only 20% of the population.

URMs are stereotyped as being less wealthy and privileged, and their numbers at TJ are abysmal.  People don't think that's fair and perpetuates a cycle.  They believe URMs deserve extra help, even if that means discrimination against white or Asian kids. To many, the ends justify the means. To others, they should be discriminated against.[/quote]

It's not stereotyping, prior to last year TJ and Langley vied for the fewest FARMs students in FCPS with TJ usually winning. [/quote]

The old admissions process only admitted 0.6% (<1%!!) economically-disadvantaged students in 2020. 
https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-486-students

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The 25% economically disadvantaged might be a fairy tale. Since any family could check yes to the meals questions and there was no verification whatsoever, it’s not clear at all how many members of the class of 2025 are low income.

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Only amoral people would have said yes. Probably not a large #. 
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I disagree.  The admissions office staff should have either worded the questions differently or required verification of income.

I’ve seen how the meals questions were worded.  If a parent was reading and responding to the literal questions, every parent should have said yes.  There was no additional information or context given.  Multiple people have reported on here that the admissions office, when asked, responded that yes anyone could respond yes to these questions.

Its mind boggling how incompetent this simple thing was handled. It’s a huge mess-up by the TJ Admissions office staff. Or possibly it was intentionally vague so that they could have a dramatic press release.

(For what it’s worth, I’m an advocate for expanding access to TJHSST.  I’m livid about how terribly the admissions office administered the meals questions and therefore diluted the preference given to low income students.)

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It was a poorly worded question.

But, as a parent whose child applied this last round, it was very clear that it was amoral to select yes unless you were truly low income. 
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Relying on morality is not a good enough safeguard.[/quote]

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