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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have always operated with the understanding that optional pretty much means required.[/quote]

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that applications from white/Asian UMC kids in the DMV without a test score can raise a red flag (i.e., why wouldn't they submit a score unless it was weak)?  And a 32 ACT may not be stellar, but I think it's still the 97th percentile so why not submit to clear up any doubts?[/quote]

what is the basis for that understanding? please don't say DCUM.[/quote]

Logic[/quote]

that's a shorthand way of saying "pulled it out of my ass"

Stanford's common data set for 2021-22 shows that for first year students who enrolled in 2021, 12.6% submitted SAT scores and 8.7% submitted ACT scores. Are you saying that the 80% that did not are all non-white/Asian UMC kids?

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Standford is a sports school.  It's not MIT.  Unlike Standford, MIT can't allow TO for long without affecting the quality of its program.  [/quote]

MIT also recruits sports.  As a result, my DC turned down the offer and went to an ivy instead.  MY DC lost respect for MIT after seeing her less prepared peer across DMV got in with sports.  SO PEOPLE, SPORTS IS YOUR KEY![/quote]

Ivies also recruit for sports.  Heavily. [/quote] 
Athletes also have to be qualified.  My DD reached out to MIT to watch her play and coach wrote back that while she wasn't in his pool of top recruits, she should check back because not all will have the test scores to qualify.  SO PEOPLE, FOR SOME SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE TO BE BOTH SMART AND EXCEL AT YOUR SPORT![/quote]

[b]athletes have to minimally qualified[/b]. [/quote]

Not true at all. Especially when you are talking about being recruited for a sport at the high level schools this thread is mentioning.
MIT is notorious for showing interest in an athlete but waiting for the kid to get accepted on their own merits before giving them a sport roster spot. 
Most T50 DIII schools are the same. 
Being a recruited athlete and gaining admission acceptance at a top school are completely separate and different processes.
Once again those who generalize on this board are wrong.[/quote]

MIT is the extreme exception to the rule in that case. Based on my kid’s experiences in sports in high school, I would be absolutely shocked if all of the top students just so happened to also be the top athletes. For d1 schools like Rice, Stanford, the Ivies, etc I don’t buy for a second that the athletes were also top students. [/quote]

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