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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1) people need to get off the idea that the athletes are lesser students

2) people need to understand the sports, and particularly football, foster broader community spirit than any other activity

3) colleges need to fill slots, that includes staffing teams. if they have the choice between the A student with 1500+ and a lineman and the same student who isn't a lineman, guess which one they are going to take?[/quote]

they are lesser students more often than not so why do we need to get off that idea?

colleges do need to fill spots and in your example, it's more likely that they would take the lineman with a B+ average and 1300 SATs over the A student with 1500+ who did non-athletic activities.

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The Ivy League very tightly regulates who can be offered a "likely letter " tip in Admissions to student/ athlete recruits who a no more than 2-3 standard deviations away from non- athlete Admit AND they stagger it to apply the strictest limit to those applicant student- athletes who's SAT/ ACT and GPA are 3 STD off.

For example, if typical Harvard admit ( non-athlete recruit/ non- legacy, non URM ) has a 1570 SAT or 35/36 ACT ( yes, Athletes still have to mandatory show scores even if non-athletes don't) AND a 3.9 GPA , then Harvard is only allowed 1-2 who are 3 STD off of that for its FB team and then maybe several more who are 2 STD off of that and the greatest number offered Admit who are just 1 STD off of that.

It is titrated of course down for the less popular sports. For example, Crew or Ice Hockey or FB may be allowed more Athletic tips for HS seniors who are 3 STD off of average Harvard Admit, but Track is only allowed those who are 2 STD's or 1 STD off

Depends on the school.  [b]The ivies and similar get plenty of linesman with A avg and 1500+ SATs.[/b]  Unless you are Olympic caliber or nationally ranked in the top 200, sports prowess isnogoing to help much + top grades and SATs.[/quote]

This is just wrong. There is actual data from admissions at Harvard and 90+% of recruited athletes have academic ratings so low that they would have been rejected if they were not recruited. [/quote]

Where is the actual data from admissions? Is it from the lawsuit?[/quote]

90% of recruited athletes at Harvard don’t have low academic ratings.  No one goes there because they have a great football program that will get them into the NFL or be recruited by the NBA.  Why would they?  Harvard, etc gets top athletes in things like squash and cross country who also happen to be excellent students.[/quote][/quote]

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