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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Through 15U most of the clubs will be splitting GKs (assuming they can roster 2 competitive keepers). By 16U, there is usually a starter and a backup. Strong GKs don’t want to be seen splitting time as they enter the recruiting years. There are some exceptions at regionally dominant clubs, but in the DMV that’s not the case. At the older ages clubs have a difficult time finding GKs that are strong.[/quote]

This. If your DC has aspirations for playing on they need to be the number one GK on their team who plays against the better teams[/quote]

Agree. By U16 you need to be able to call yourself the starting keeper in convos with coaches. No one at a top soccer school is looking to recruit the second keeper, especially when the colleges are recruiting possible starters only every 2nd or 3rd year. However, t are plenty of GKs recruited as practice players, but usually it’s quite clear that that’s where they’ll remain. Some of those slots may go to second keepers. If that works for your DD that is an option. [/quote]

Starting is not the same as the number 1 keeper. The second half keeper in a tournament is the one doing PKs [/quote]

Splitting time is for an average to below average keeper. A good keeper should control the field and needs to be on the field. splitting time adds to confusion as to who the leader is. For those who say its normal to split time dont honestly realize that means you dont have a great keeper your blinded by personal interest.[/quote]

Sorry - but this is ignorant.  The best keepers in northern VA - the ones that are getting invites to YNT tryouts - are splitting time.

Whether that is indeed better for the GK and/or the team is a separate question.  My guess is that it is better for the GK not to split time, but better for the team to have two GKs who split time.  But to suggest that, if you have two keepers who split time it's because you don't have a great keeper - that's nonsense.[/quote]

Do tell, what NOVA GKs are getting YNT call ups?[/quote]

Tryouts - not actual call ups to the team.  There's quite a bit of difference - in all about 600 boys or so nationally get invited to the first level of tryout which are held in nine locations - one for each of nine regions.  Ours is held in Baltimore for kids from between Philadelphia and Richmond.  I'm obviously not going to name names - and it's not necessary to make the argument anyway.

The best clubs in this region - for boys anyway - are DCU, Richmond, Bethesda, Baltimore, Arlington, Pipeline and VDA.  You could probably make an argument to add one or two other clubs to that list - but it wouldn't change the result.  Every single one of them carries multiple GKs (usually two, but I believe at least one of the DCU age groups carries three) and all of them split time to some degree.  Obviously I see more games from some of these clubs  than others.  Most of them have split every game I have seen 50-50.  DCU (again in my experience) typically splits time less - but that may just be the games I have seen - and they still split time.

In every case both keepers on these teams are very good and would likely start for the first team on many other clubs.[/quote]

So in a thread about girl goalkeepers, you are discussing boy goalkeepers splitting time... Boys teams are different and there is much more depth to the GK spot. Also, NTCs end around age 15.  Quite honestly, until kids go through puberty nobody puts much stock into their skill. So yes, at 15 and younger (because it doesn’t matter) teams do and should rotate GKs.

The top girl goalkeepers in the region do not split time. The regional girls who have been called to the NTCs do not split time. Time splitting ends at 15U when you are a competitive GK.  If you see teams over the age of 15U splitting GK time, something else is going on.[/quote]

Dude they do.  Every top team in NOVA plays 2 keepers 50-50.  I have never seen an ECNL girls game where they did switch keepers outside of an injury.[/quote]

Maybe your watching regional ECNL? After having kids play in ECNL for over 6 years, what I’ve seen is more in line with not splitting time. There are plenty of top ECNL teams that play only one GK for the entire game. In fact, there are some teams where there is only one GK rostered. [/quote]

The top keepers in the ECNL Mid Atlantic region do split time. There is not hard true statement that they all play their #1 or they all split. It really depends on the specific team and age group. I was watching some Richmond United matches and they have plenty of top keepers splitting time - sometimes even with ECNL Development players (part time on lower club, part time on ECNL team). I happened to watch their older girls teams recently and they had 3 keepers on roster on the u19 team and at least 2 at the u17 group. Across both of these age groups they split time. I have seen this be true for many clubs but wanted to give a real example I saw recently - and have seen across many clubs, teams. I think splitting is much more common than not but it varies by club/team and amount of talent at those clubs/teams. [/quote]

Splitting time is fine for GK’s, most of the learning will be done in practice. [/quote]

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