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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, thank you for writing this and taking the heat! I have felt this way for a long time but this is not an opinion you're allowed to have in polite society right now. I'm not sure why.

It's strange because I like all kinds of things that other people don't like -- super niche, nerdy science fiction; poetry; opera; modern dance; detailed British nature paintings. Like just random art that speaks very specifically to my aesthetic and topical interests. I have zero problems when people say they don't like these things. I don't expect them to.

I think that's the difference. A lot of people who love LMM get mad if you say it's not their thing because their is an expectation that everyone will like it. That's a weird expectation. Even the more popular stuff I like (Lizzo, Game of Thrones, Amy Winehouse, Louise Penny novels), I know people who don't like them. And it's fine! They like other things.

LMM's talk-singing thing, and specifically the way a lot of his songs are designed to feel like you are being buried in words and feelings, is not my thing. I believe it has to do with aesthetic, I really appreciate more sparse musical aesthetics, I like feeling carried by music not hit by it. Which yes, means I'm heavily invested in melody and beat, whereas LMM is more focused on the lyrics themselves, musical punctuation, and a kind of excess. That's fine. Not my thing.

It's not a personal insult to YOU if I don't like the thing you like. Liking things is subjective, by definition.[/quote]

Good point. Half the English population cannot process quickly spoken language so the cleverness and meaning of the rapped lyrics, which are ALWAYS storytelling with LMM, are lost. Or require a look up later or a 2nd viewing, etc.

Is that a good thing? Is that “depth” if many people need multiple exposures to get it? My work addict spouse on the spectrum didn’t understand or appreciate Hamilton at all. But he’ll toe the line and say it was fantastic because that’s what the reviews said. That’s too bad, he may have learned some history and Miranda’s/author’s take on some historic figures. [/quote]

1776 was the superior musical about the nation's founding. The history is better, it's funnier, and it confronts the slavery issue head-on, rather than using actors of color to obfuscate the founders' sins. [/quote]

oh okay there can only be one good musical about the founding fathers. thanks, musical police, for letting us know[/quote]

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